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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: thefisherman37 on Tuesday 24 March 09 16:18 GMT (UK)
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I have just bought the Manchester Godfrey map of 1891 (NE) showing me most of the streets where my family came from which was Collyhurst but it just misses off Ashley lane, could anyone Please tell me which other map is the other side to mine would it be a central manchester one Thanks Jo :-\
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Hello Jo
The Manchester and Lancashire Family History website www.mlfhs.org.uk has the maps for sale and how they join up with each other . Have a look at the bookshop section .
You can go on the website of www.artus-familyhistory.com/source/Early%20Maps.html and click on early maps and in particular Manchester 1874 . Just to the right of Strangeways you will see Ashley Lane and it gives a good idea of the area .
Good luck.
Eric
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Hi Jo,
(wrote this just before Eric posted!)
that is such bad luck, Ashley Lane starts on the NW map and crosses over to finish on the NE that you have ??? So for the whole street you need the Manchester NW as well.
On the top left rectangle of your NE map, find the words ST MICHAEL WARD in large print, go left and you see the famous St Michaels Flags (Angel Meadow). Just above there you've got the word 'Ashley' and the end of the lane which leads on to Portland St.
I have the street index booklets published by the M/cr and Lancs FHS, which really help with finding places www.mlfhs.org.uk
:) Barbara
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Thanks allot I will just buy the NW one the NE one has loads of streets which I wanted to see so it s all good, while i am on here you know when I am searching the census to find someone example my nanas mum Mary ann Ratican who was born in 1886 address was Pump street ancoats/collyhurst Manchester I cannot find her again until her marriage certificate which tells me she lived in Nicholas street Collyhurst, has anyone any idea why i can't find her? Her dad was called John Ratican and I can't find anything for him, do you know if they had to register? ::)
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Sent you a PM with map link for Ashley lane on.
Migky ;)
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you looked on the Manchester Burial site?
There are a few Ratican's on there ?
Migky ;)
Click 4 Burials (http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/)
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:)much appreciated the map saves me buying one, Thanks for taking the time Jo.
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Hello , My mother was born in Back Pump Street, I wonder if that was behind the Pump Street you mention?It was off Oldham Road , near Gunson Street. If it is nearby then there is a photo available from M/C City Local Image Collection . She was born in 1896 and her father worked for Harlands Undertakers.I`m sure there is more than one Pump St but I thought it worth a mention. Viktoria
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Hi,I have just looked on the Manchester (NE) 1891 map and it shows that Pump street ran from Rochdale road all the way through to Oldham road, I must have the right Pump street because I have put 47 Pump street in the 1881 census and it said the district of St George. Thanks for your help Jo :)
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Hi me again now I am not sure just been looking on the map and seen another Pump street with quite a large street going through it called Osborn st so I am not sure again which one it would be I don't know which one would be classed as St George :-\
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These districts and sub-districts are so confusing, i can never work it out. I get registration and ecclesiastical districts confused, oh and guess what, there is a third Pump st on the Manchester NE map!
As far as I have been able to work out from census and certs of my own, the St George registration district is the bit we've been talking about, between Oldham Rd and Rochdale Rd. I never heard of "St George" district when I was actually living in Manchester - just thought of that area as part of Ancoats, on the border with Collyhurst. So I think your Pump St is the one you first thought of, between Oldham & Rochdale Rd.
The Pump St by Osborne st is near St Patricks RC church on Livesey St, and I would call that area part of Miles Platting myself.
The third Pump St is tiny and is in the New Cross/Holt Town area at the Beswick end of Ancoats.
And looking at Viktoria's Back Pump St on a later map (isn't on the 1891) it doesn't seem to be at the back of any of them! :o Its at the back of Naylor St and Gunson St.
If we can find the Raticans in 1891 really, might settle the matter one way or the other...
:) Barbara
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Sorry my fault when I said district of St George I should have said the sub registration district my mistake. :)
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Hi, I am also looking for some info on Mary Ann Ratican from the ancoats area who was my Grandads Mums Mum. Just wondering is it the same Mary Ann Ratican who married Henry Shannon.
Any info would be great, thanks.
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Do you know John's job there is one in Canning st Manchester age 17 a Iron Fetler In Foundry on the 1881
a marriage on freebmd for a JR in 1885 dec q to either Ann Flaherty or Margerat Mclean.
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Amanda and Goldy
Fisherman37 hasn't been online since April.
I've just sent him/her a PM to alert him/her re your presence in case he/she has notifications turned off.
Amanda, welcome to Rootschat.
PM is a private message - you can't use that system until you have three posts, so just answer this one and then another with maybe more info on Mary Ann and family, and you'll be OK.
Cheers
Dawn M (an interested bystander)
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Hi, just sent Amanda a PM, I don't know if she can receive it or not because i've just seen your message saying she needs to make 3 posts to send a PM, well if not I think we are talking the same family. Amanda Just send me a message through Rootschat. Thanks for emailing me Rootschat. :) Thanks Billyblue.