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Census Lookups General Lookups => Census and Resource Discussion => Topic started by: Nick29 on Monday 23 March 09 08:56 GMT (UK)
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I think maybe the suggestion of April for the date of the first release of the LMA archives may be correct !
Ancestry now has a full page feature on the LMA archives on their site, emblazened with a "Coming Soon" sticker at the top of the page ! 8)
Nick.
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Am I the only person who doesn't have ancestors anywhere near London? Everyone seems to have them, my only one was born in Middlesex but baptised in South Shields 5 years later ::)
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You're very lucky - in the few years that I've been researching my tree, I've done very well with my mother's side of the family, who mainly came from Somerset and Suffolk. However, my dad's side, who were all from the parts of Kent & Hertfordshire which are now part of Greater London, are a different story. I've come to a complete brick wall at 1800. Hopefully the LMA records may help me to break through :)
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I don't have ancestors FROM London as such, but I have a few that lived and worked there...will the LMA be useful to me for this?
For example, my GGGG-Grandmother was a nurse (back in 1861ish) in London, would love to be able to find out more about her...
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I don't have ancestors FROM London as such, but I have a few that lived and worked there...will the LMA be useful to me for this?
For example, my GGGG-Grandmother was a nurse (back in 1861ish) in London, would love to be able to find out more about her...
Quite possibly......
"In total there are seven different types of records: Parish Records, Bishops' Transcripts, Non-Conformist Registers, Electoral Registers, School Admission and Discharge Registers, Parish Poor Records and the Land Tax plus other more unfamiliar collections such as Boards of Guardians (which is the late 19th and early 20th century records including workhouses, asylums and special schools), wills from the church courts of the Dioceses of London and Winchester, transportation sessions, Diocesan marriage bonds, allegations and divorce exhibita as well as City of London Freedoms. "
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Sounds good...
Roll on April so!
Thanks Nick :)
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Don't get too excited - it's being rolled out over a 2-year period :)
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ah, I see, dangling the proverbial carrot as it were then...! ;D
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So it might just be worth taking out some sort of a sub again then with ancestry ::) ;D
But I might wait a bit yet though.
Kerry
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I dont have any ancestors outside of the midlands and wales.
which i suppose has been better for me with them not moving around much.
Here's hoping the entire parish records for the country will be up in the future.
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Am I the only person who doesn't have ancestors anywhere near London? Everyone seems to have them, my only one was born in Middlesex but baptised in South Shields 5 years later ::)
I don't have any ancestors in or near London. I do have descendants of siblings of ancestors though.
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Ancestry now has a full page feature on the LMA archives on their site, emblazened with a "Coming Soon" sticker at the top of the page ! 8)
Nick that "coming soon" sticker has been there for weeks, I even posted a link about it a few weeks back on here in a tread you posted in, did you not see it ;)
I saw you had started this thread and for one minute I thought you were announcing the first lot had been released for us to search on. Oh how you have disappointed me ;D
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Sorry, I haven't seen the "Coming soon" thing before. I knew that Ancestry was launching the LMA records since it was announced in September 2008, and I knew that the launch was in Spring 2009, but I hadn't seen the Ancestry "Coming Soon" page before. On the US site there are lots more tempting goodies also "Coming Soon" :)
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The information page says they have had eight people working full time on the project at the LMA since early September 2008. There appear to be an awful lot of records to photograph. If the release is alphabetical we may be waiting longer than two years for Wandsworth ::)
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typical, mine are all from Wandsworth!! ;D
Do you know if its going to be covered by the basic memebership - she asked hopefully, or is it another way to get us to upgrade if we renew? :-\
jen
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Do you know if its going to be covered by the basic memebership - she asked hopefully, or is it another way to get us to upgrade if we renew? :-\
jen
Haven't seen any mention either way. Probably more money :) But by the sound of things it will be worth it - especially for people overseas like me ;)
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If the release is alphabetical we may be waiting longer than two years for Wandsworth
Just found out from the 1911 census that my g.grandfather was born in Bethnal Green, hopefully one of the earlier places to be put onto Ancestry. Maybe there'll be something about him in the LMA Archives, but then again probably not. ::) ::)
Lizzie
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Tower Hamlets is one of the parishes with lots of churches listed on the ancestry information map ;D
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Do you know if its going to be covered by the basic memebership - she asked hopefully, or is it another way to get us to upgrade if we renew? :-\
jen
I have just renewed and was told by ancestry that i had to have at least the 'UK Premium' subscription to view the forthcoming LMA information.
John
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Just found out from the 1911 census that my g.grandfather was born in Bethnal Green, hopefully one of the earlier places to be put onto Ancestry.
I have quite a few from Bethnal Green as well and haven't been able to sort the very well at all. I am not 100% sure what I know about them is correct so I can't wait for the Bethnal Green records to be uploaded.
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There are a few records online this morning!
I found some of my lot in Southwark and St Marylebone :D :D
John
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WOW ! So there are ! Thanks ! :)
So far they seem to have done......
Camden
Islington
Lambeth
Southwark
Tower Hamlets
Wandsworth
Westminster
That's Poor Law Union, Births & Baptisms, and Deaths & Burials.
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OK ...... Where are they ??
What have they been filed under ??
Have just spent last ten minutes looking - can someone please put a link on,
Thanks,
Al & Al
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OK ...... Where are they ??
What have they been filed under ??
Have just spent last ten minutes looking - can someone please put a link on,
Thanks,
Al & Al
Just go to ancestry.co.uk's home page and scroll down to "new records on Ancestry" - you can't miss them!
Anna
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Is anyone else getting a Sign Up Now screen - even though logged in :-\ :-\
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Is anyone else getting a Sign Up Now screen - even though logged in :-\ :-\
Yes I was just about to say when your reply came through. It says that you can have any type of subscription to view but it won't let me either :(
Evie
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I think I have the UK premium, and it's letting me in...even though none of mine are showing up yet :(
Daisy Loo
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My annual UK expires July 5, 2009. I've had the equivalent of uK Premium up to now. According to the blurb that is supposed to last until the expiry date before the upgrade kicks in. Perhaps it is just a glitch or a new policy to get people to upgrade earlier...... >:(
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hmm :( do you want me to look anything up for you?
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My annual UK expires July 5, 2009. I've had the equivalent of uK Premium up to now. According to the blurb that is supposed to last until the expiry date before the upgrade kicks in. Perhaps it is just a glitch or a new policy to get people to upgrade earlier...... >:(
It must be as I too have been able to access other records that are for Premium customers. What confused me though was the screen said to subscribe to any membership to be able to view this record.
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I expect it will be part of the basic sub - and that they'll try to get this out soon as an answer to findmypast's 1911 census
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You bet your life they will ! In the long run it's more useful than the 1911 census.
I'm wondering if Ancestry are still setting up the access rights to the new sections ? I have the full World Membership, and I can see the new databases listed at the bottom of the home page. They haven't formally announced the new databases yet.
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well... Ancestry have added the following database titles on new title section the home page
# London, England, Poor Law Records, 1840-1938
# London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1834-1906
# London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1834-1934
but doesn't seem to be searchable yet...
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but doesn't seem to be searchable yet...
The ones I looked at were searchable. But some of us can't access the records and some have had no problems ::)
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HI
I've not many ancestors from London - some married in London though living in surrey.
Also one from Bucks who married a man from Berks while living in England.
However I take the view that some of those dead ends could come from London
Bob
p.s. the new batch are all far to new to be any use to me
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So frustrated that I couldn't access the records that I didn't read properly. I've just realized that all the records they have published so far are from the Board of Guardian Poor Law records NOT from the Parish Records.
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I entered a name, who I know was in the workhouse but he didn't come up.
So I then entered the name Smith with no area selected and still nothing...
perhaps I need to play a little more!
I do have premium subscription.. not basic.
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it won't let me view any records and I have an annual premium though I'm not sure which one.
So frustrating!
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I wonder if the '100 year rule' will still apply to the Workhouse records?
I have an Uncle who died in a Hostel for Homeless men in Stepney in the 1950s, & the LMA told me that I wouldn't be able to access any records on him until after 2057!! (I'll be completely in my dotage by then:-)
Romilly ::)
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This link was given in a large advert in this months Your Family Tree
Great map but not much else
www.ancestry.co.uk/lma
Kerry
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Would anyone be able to do a look up for me please as I only have the 'essentials' membership and it needs premium?
Ive put in the details and its telling me that the records are there but won't let me view :-[
Is it okay to ask on here or do I need to go to the London board and request from there?
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what you looking for Jensquest?
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Its Frances Julian Wardell born 1898 Lambeth (Renfrew Road Workhouse) to mother either Mary Agnes Wardell or Agnes Mary Wardell
Also
Mary Ann Wardell nee Bentley born Clapham, 1851
Maria Sutton Oates born Sheffield 1829 but lived in Clapham for most of her life.
They are all coming up when I do the search.
Thanks Daisy loo
Jen
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Should have said that Frances is female even though she has the middle name of Julian - hoping that that is a clue to her un- named father.
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Jen, am pm'ing you :)
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Could I be terribly cheeky and ask for a look up?
I'm looking for a Mary Anne Lane born St Saviour Southwark workhouse in 1871. No father's name is given but her mother was Hannah Lane.
I'm not even sure if the St Saviour southwark workhouse is actually an alternative name for one of the southwark workhouses >:(
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Jilly, there's no Mary Anne Lane b.1871 that I can see....there's a Mary Ann Lane mother to a William b. 1901
I just checked the births :-\
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Cheers anyway Daisy Loo. Do appreciate the time and effort. Seems Mary Ann just doesn't want to be found >:(
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I just looked up a record for jensquest, that was there...when I clicked to view the original image, it appeared there was a page missing? ie, it was only showing, sex of child, number of entry, name of mother and date...not even the name of the child was on the page. I viewed the image before and after, but they were just more of the same...so no "opposite" page...has anyone else come across this?...yet the name of the child WAS on the transcription? :-\
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Wow didn't think the first lot of these would be on yet despite their "coming soon" message. I thought they might be available around Easter or something. Again thanks for the heads up Nick.
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I just looked up a record for jensquest, that was there...when I clicked to view the original image, it appeared there was a page missing? ie, it was only showing, sex of child, number of entry, name of mother and date...not even the name of the child was on the page. I viewed the image before and after, but they were just more of the same...so no "opposite" page...has anyone else come across this?...yet the name of the child WAS on the transcription? :-\
Hi Daisyloo
Double check the scroll bar at the bottom. The christian names of the children are in the far right column.
H
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I have only got a basic subscription to Ancestry but since today I can now search and see the images without any problem. It's still not easy to work out which years etc are available though.
Barbara
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How do you search for an inquest? I can only see links for births and deaths.
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How do you search for an inquest? I can only see links for births and deaths.
Not sure if Inquests are on there yet. Up to yesterday anyway there only entries from the Poor Law Union.
H
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I've only got a basic subscription - I can get some info, but not workhouse lists. Can anyone with a premium sub tell me if they are available and if so what info is included - it would be worth paying for a short upgrade if they include Holborn workhouse. Thanks.
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I checked and now I can"t get the images again!
Should have kept quiet. Oh Well
Barbara
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I've only got a basic subscription - I can get some info, but not workhouse lists. Can anyone with a premium sub tell me if they are available and if so what info is included - it would be worth paying for a short upgrade if they include Holborn workhouse. Thanks.
Holborn images are up there. I upgraded to premium yesterday and think I got quite a good deal. I had 3 months left on the old basic which still allowed me to look at the other parish databases but not the LMA images. So they gave me back just under 18 pounds back and then when I thought I was ordering a new premium annual for 107 pounds they gave me 13 months for 93 pounds. So now have 13 months of premium for about 75 pounds. They must be worried about the competition!
Heather
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Good for you Heather!
Perhaps they will start to rethink their customer care now and actually start answering customer queries! :(
Kerry
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... they gave me 13 months...
That happened to me as well :D
I had to change the existing credit card to pay for the next year's subscription and because I did this two days before the old one run out I got an extra month free...
John
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Perhaps they will start to rethink their customer care now and actually start answering customer queries! :(
Kerry
We can but dream ROFL ;D ;D ;D
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It looks as if all the records so far, are too recent for me to want to take out a subscription. I need some nice C18th Parish Registers.
BTW. I think the people of Huntingdon might argue with the statement that Oliver Cromwell is a famous Londoner ::)
Carole
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Thanks Heather. It sounds like it's worth the money - except knowing my luck I won't be offered anything!
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Thanks Heather. It sounds like it's worth the money - except knowing my luck I won't be offered anything!
Oh ye of little faith lesleyhannah ;D ;D Go for it. I didn't even ask for anything. If they don't give it to you automatically- call them up and act shocked and dismayed :o :o Tell them about your fellow rootschatters experiences ;D
Is anyone else finding the records/results confusing? There are Poor Law baptisms and then there appear to be Workhouse baptisms etc. but still no regular baptisms I think. The search results are still all over the place. It doesn't help that I know very little about London area parishes but I am learning ;)
H
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There is a map on the site explaining all the parishes and where they are. It is a bit disappointing that they have transcribed the poor law/workhouse registers first and no regular parishes which I guess is what we are all waiting for but hopefully the first ones will appear soon - all good things and all that.
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Is anyone else finding the records/results confusing? There are Poor Law baptisms and then there appear to be Workhouse baptisms etc. but still no regular baptisms I think.
No, I'm not confused, but then I read the information supplied....
"This database contains birth and baptismal records from London, England for 1834-1906. Currently all of the records come from Board of Guardian Poor Law records."
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BTW. I think the people of Huntingdon might argue with the statement that Oliver Cromwell is a famous Londoner ::)
Carole
Yes, very surprised! Since the house where he was born and the school he attended are both in Huntingdon!!
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For those still interested in following this, I've posted an update here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,371720.msg2465888.html#msg2465888
Dawn
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Interested to hear if anyone has found a rellie yet in the LMA records?
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Nop, not even those are definitely there according to certificates I have received. :-\
Kerry
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Nop, not even those are definitely there according to certificates I have received. :-\
Kerry
Me neither, I'm still a bit confused as to how the search works to be honest!
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Does anyone know if baptisms in the workhouse were for all christian denominations? If a mother was catholic would the child be baptised in the workhouse or were the only baptisms C of E?
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The records have been updated and this time around parish records are included:
http://landing.ancestry.co.uk/lma/default.aspx
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Alan
They've updated the page but not the database :-\ it won't go live till next week
Dawn
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I know now ;D
I got carried away but a few days isn't to long to wait.
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On the Ancestry news page it says that B and M are searchable by name 1813-1906 BUT WHEN YOU click on it you get 1834-1906 so which is correct?
Ringrose
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When it goes live next week it will be baptisms from 1813 and marriages from 1754.
The current page refers to the Poor Law/Board of Guardians records.
The search engine will not work until the 14th or 15th.
Dawn
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THanks that makes it a bit clearer. Lets hope that everyone finds someone on the new records.
Ringrose
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I would be amazing if I did, my people are rarley in London, but the Varndens had to marry somewhere so who knows
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I have just looked at some marriage images for Paddington
Not sure what else is available besides marriages I'm still checking
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Unless I am doing something wrong' there only seems to be an image of the left hand page of the marriage register of St James St Pancras for the year 1901 My grand parents marriage is of course on the right hand side. I can just see their names and that is all. They are on page image 7 or rather they are not on page image 7. Anyone else having this problem?
Barbara
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Hi Barbara,
It could be they way they are scanned. It happened when they scanned the workhouse records too, I had quite a conversation with Ancestry tech dept last time and they finally acknowledged something was wrong and put it right.
I suggest emailing Ancestry to let them know there is a problem, try to be as concise as possible so that the person receiving your complaint is able to understand the problem otherwise you will get the stock answer and nothing happens.
added: don't forget to give them an example with the ref so they can double check exactly what you are looking at.
Jenny
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HI
Yes I looked and you're right the RHS is missing half
It was amarriage I knew about
I must admit to being surprised when I looked at the baptisms - which are as yet unindexed, that Staines (where I live) and Laleham are included - I can follow up my wife's ancestors, I had no idea that marriages this far out are being included (to find this look under Surrey, where they are now, though of course this was middlesex)
Bob
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Staines and Laleham included ;D It just gets better.
I haven't had time to look yet, supposed to be busy doing house stuff, but keeping an eye on the board while making coffee ;)
Jenny
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Wooohooo!!!!!!!
Stephen Child married Mary Dimsdale 7 November 1790 St James Clerkenwell!
We have (honestly!) been searching the best part of 15 years to find out where they married. The very last piece of the jigsaw that fully documents my husband's line back to 1600.
I think this calls for a celebration - We'll have to crack open a bottle of something tonight ;D
Carole
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Heh Heh! Loads of Questeds, some I have not already got!
However, some silly indexing; for the marriages they sometimes but not always put the estimated birth year the same as the event date, when it says Full Age.. Confused me at first when looking down the list
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Oh happy, happy day! One of my most intractable brick walls down by virtue of a marriage at St Mary Islington, which I pass every day :)
Anna
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I suggest emailing Ancestry to let them know there is a problem, try to be as concise as possible so that the person receiving your complaint is able to understand the problem otherwise you will get the stock answer and nothing happens.
added: don't forget to give them an example with the ref so they can double check exactly what you are looking at.
I've just found a marriage entry that might be a clue to my "brickwall" but typically it is on the half of the page that hasn't been scanned properly. In fact, the scan is right at the bottom of the page and the other half of the scanned item isn't scanned properly either. They must have had lots of complaints about this type of thing, because on the left hand side of the page there is an option to "Report Image Problem", but it has a yellow triangle by it and doesn't work. ::)
I will report the problem with the reference of the example I was looking at. Meanwhile, I do at least have the names of the couple who married and their fathers.
Lizzie
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must admit this will save me many £££'s as i had a page of certificates to check out and maybe buy,
and already confirmed that 3 are the ones that i want, and looking at the scans i doubt if i need to buy the originals
as they give the same info, so good stuff :)
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Oh dear :(
It does look as if it's very hit or miss. Most marriage images from the right hand page of the register seem to be cut off half way across and I've found another couple which have been cut off half way horizontally.
It looks to me as if they haven't been photographed properly >:(
Carole
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I can't find any of the LAM Poor law records on Ancestry now and I know I've looked at them in the past.
Can someone post the link? or have they been removed?
Jillie
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A lot of people can't see the rh side of the images.
To solve the problem, apparently, you need to download the enhanced viewer.
the link is here
http://landing.ancestry.co.uk/lma/default.aspx
Baptisms & burials still aren't working.
Have a look at the unindexed images from the old parish registers 1538-1812
Dawn
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Well, just goes to show, don't trust dates other people give you!
I had the marriage index ref but a contact gave me a date of the 25th Mar 1885 and the image clearly says 23rd March
Oh happy days...double checking some of the certs I already have, the ancestry scan is very clear compared to the certs.
as in one of my ancestors in-law descendants once said "I'm just stepping ouside for a moment, I might be sometime"
;D ;D ;D
Jenny
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must admit this will save me many £££'s as i had a page of certificates to check out and maybe buy,
and already confirmed that 3 are the ones that i want, and looking at the scans i doubt if i need to buy the originals
as they give the same info, so good stuff :)
Hi Les
These are better than the ones you get from the GRO as you have the true signatures not the transcriptions supplied by the vicars when they did their quarterly returns.
Dawn
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i would also suggest you keep checking over next months as it deffo' is not complete,
as i have marriage certificates and thought i would check to compare them and to see if any Banns listed,
and it didn't find a number of certificates i KNOW are correct and should be there
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must admit this will save me many £££'s as i had a page of certificates to check out and maybe buy,
and already confirmed that 3 are the ones that i want, and looking at the scans i doubt if i need to buy the originals
as they give the same info, so good stuff :)
Hi Les
These are better than the ones you get from the GRO as you have the true signatures not the transcriptions supplied by the vicars when they did their quarterly returns.
Dawn
Lol thanks for that Dawn ;)
i hadn't even noticed i was so busy d/l them as i found them and only checked the names to make sure correct,
means i now need to d/l all the certificates i THOUGHT i already had to get the sigs'
THANKS :)
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Sadly even with the enhanced viewer I can't see the bottom half of an entry. Logically, I thought viewing the next image would solve the problem but it doesn't :(
Very annoying.
Carole
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Sadly even with the enhanced viewer I can't see the bottom half of an entry. Logically, I thought viewing the next image would solve the problem but it doesn't :(
Very annoying.
Carole
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Sadly even with the enhanced viewer I can't see the bottom half of an entry. Logically, I thought viewing the next image would solve the problem but it doesn't :(
Very annoying.
Carole
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Thank you.
Why doesn't it work for me?
Unless I'm lucky enough to want an entry on the top left page of a register I can't see the whole entry - apparently on everything I try to view and I downloaded the enhanced viewer. ???
Carole
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Sadly even with the enhanced viewer I can't see the bottom half of an entry. Logically, I thought viewing the next image would solve the problem but it doesn't :(
Very annoying.
Carole
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oops apology
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I know we are all excited that these records have been launched, but we are being watched by the powers that be to ensure that the terms and conditions of use you agree to when you sign up to Ancestry are not contravened.
Please do not ask for look-ups or offer to do look-ups.
By all means correspond by pm.
Dawn
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the viewer works for me great.
I've already saved the equivalent of a years ancestry subs on marriage entries for one name only in less than an hour!
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If you are still having problems, the suggestion is to turn off your pc and try again. If it still doesn't work then you'll have to send a message to Ancestry. They do know people are having problems with the viewer but as long as it's the latest one, you should be able to see the images. More people than not are seeing the images.
Dawn
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Sorted! ;D
My popup blocker was blocking the new viewer download, but it's all working fine now - I knew it must be something I was doing wrong ;D
Carole
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My 295 QUESTEDs are now in a spreadsheet - and am in the process of saving all the images I want.
There are not really 295 - 7 are variants and the others are all duplicated by the Ancestry search (ie the spouses are all listed again). The Banns are mostly boring, but seeing the actual register page is great. But still, a hundred odd of them, some I have never heard of. Lots of work tonight and the nights to come.
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Looking at the quality of the pre-1813 scans, I think it may be some time before these are indexed, if at all. Also, I note that some of the offerings have been available on CD for quite some time (i.e. most of the Greenwich area), and in some cases the scans on the CD's seem to be better than the ones featured on Ancestry.
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Yes, there are also some missing from the St Georges Hanover Sq reg district, perhaps still to do.
I expect these will arrive at some point, I have more than enough to be getting on with.
Amazingly though, its the ones I was really really waiting for are missing, the names are common and too expensive to buy certs on the off-chance I'll get lucky. Nevemind, it has solved a few mysteries over missing widows who, unknown to me remarried very late in life! And found me a bigamist ;D
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I see from Ancestry's what's new that
1) There are extra burials (many more)
2) There are extra baptisms (many more)
3) There are marriages
4) There is a database called London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
This contains the unindexed records especially from these I have taken back my wife's Mewes family in Laleham a couple of generations
Annoyingly one of the post 1837 Mewes marriages was there but banns only, I'm too mean to order the cert and want to know wife's father's name - it hopefully will be on one day
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The records of St George Hanover Square are at Westminster Archives . I wonder if that means they won't be included in these LMA parishes?
Barbara
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Unless the LMA has copies of the Westminster registers they won't be included :(
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All credit to Ancestry! People do like to complain about them, but they don't charge extra for new additions to their website, quite a contrast to FindMyPast. I know they will probably adjust their subscription rates in the future, and have already introduced different levels of subscription, but at the moment it does feel like getting a nice present from them!
Anne
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I have spent a very long time searching with some success my London "LOT". Some of the Westminster parishes seem to have been done. I think some of the Fulham, Hammersmith ,Chelsea and kensington parishes are missing as I cannot find all of mine.
Isnt it lovely not to have to think of a journey to the LMA and to be able to take your time in looking. My husband and I have both been looking and at times call to wach other what we have found. Ive had no trouble in viewing the records and they have printed well.
We grumble about Ancestry but these records are amazing.
I dont expect to find as much on the extracted records but with time more and more will be added.
I suppose I must away to more mundane things.
Ringrose
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Thanks Dawn,
Didn't think of that ! Never mind, plenty to be getting on with and I'm not complaining... a trip to Westminster may be on the cards then when I've gathered up what I'm missing.
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The records of St George Hanover Square are at Westminster Archives . I wonder if that means they won't be included in these LMA parishes?
Barbara
They won't - the current lot are from LMA and the Guildhall Library
I have a Buckinghamshire ancestor whose brother was quoted as previously of St George's Hanover Square.
I have never really looked, maybe one day
Bob
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I have been having fun with these
I found marriage of my grandparents at Cricklewood (I had onlt the record in FreeBMD before and had not ordered the cert)
No idea why they married there - except maybe she was visibly expecting and the marriage was away from anyone who knew her.
The child was born in the area - my late Uncle.
Also my gt grandparents at St Mary's Lambeth in 1881
Found may more than I expected and sorted out the mystery of my great grandfather's second marriage
Bob
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Please forgive me if I'm being totally,simple here,but how do I access the LMA records? I'm sure I have the right subscription for it!
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try http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=1623&enc=1&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
Marriage & Banns 1754-1921.
Or select your preferred records from
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/default.aspx?rt=34
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Go to ancestry.co.uk
Under What's happening at Ancestry.co.uk at the bottom click on View all new records
Ensure
Include databases originating outside the UK
Is NOT ticked
Then the top 4 databases are what you want
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the baptisms and burials are also searchable now ;D
having great fun
you can also drill down by selecting
Birth deaths and marriages and scrolling down the alphabetical list till you find LONDON....
and they are all listed there
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I have now found my Cook family (other than the marriage in St Geo Hanover Sq), they eventually all came tumbling out of the woodwork! plus some more new names to add to the tree ;)
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I've got one marriage (dec) with two lots of Banns (march and again in sept
What were the rules on banns? did the marriage have to follow within a certain time?
Monique
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Banns are read on the 3 previous Sundays to the wedding, same as today
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Hi All.....
I have been without Ancestry for a while now but as it is my birthday next weekend hubby has said about a new subscription. What I would like to know is .... Are the LMA records available on all of the packages ie Essential or only premium & worldwide?
Sorry if this has been asked before .
Tazzie
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The LMA are part of Worldwide or Premium packages but not Essentials.
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Hi Tazzie
More info here
http://landing.ancestry.co.uk/intl/uk/sub_faq.aspx?o_xid=26445&o_lid=26445
To view anything pre1837 which the LMA stuff is, you need premium.
Have you considered using Library Edition?
Dawn
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Banns are read on the 3 previous Sundays to the wedding, same as today
well that was my understanding-but here two sets of banns were read, six months and three months ahead of the wedding
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Maybe they changed their minds or had to postpone?
Dawn
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Hi Dawn
Thanks for that so premium it looks like then. Have used the library in Milton Keynes before but parking can be a real pain!
As`for banns my 3x great grandma Jane Seabrook nee Lambourne had banns called for a marriage to William Waters the last being 5 oct 1834 the entry finishes with NOT married.He however left her holding the baby.
Tazzie
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The interesting thing is that I saw Banns of my gt grandather's Banns were there for his second marriage for Staines, but he wasn't married there but in Brentford district
However it was enough to find I had his wife's name wrong
Bob
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OOOOh. 155 QUESTED Baptisms. I had "my" family, but plenty more to play with.
NB there are many duplicates - some of the blotchy pages seem to have been scanned twice at different settings.
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well that was my understanding-but here two sets of banns were read, six months and three months ahead of the wedding
I found one where 2 lots of banns were read 4 years apart same parish in 1879 and 1883, they were shown as married 1881 census and their marriage is dated 1883.
One oddity is the male's 1st christian name was Edward 1879 and Edwin 1883, same middle name each time.
On a different note here I was thinking no need to buy these Greater London marriages from the GRO anymore and then I find a 1839 marriage that is half destroyed.
There's also a few marriages I haven't located on Ancestry.
Mick
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why do people use the intials of the different records?i know it makes sense rather than writing out the whole thing but for someone like me whose new to geneaology it,s hard to understand sometimes
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why do people use the intials of the different records?
Tell us the initials you don't understand and someone will explain
The last one I saw was LMA = London Metropolitan Archives
They hold a wide range of records, NOT city of London (at Guildhall Library), also NOT Westminster (at Westminster Archives), but a lot of Middlesex and South of the river, even Wills and Marriage licences for rural surrey
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Are these all the records from the LMA as they seem to be incomplete. I want to look at the registers of St John Wapping from the 1720s and I've looked at the link for registers 1707-1740 ( well I actually did it in 10 page gaps rather than look at all 430 odd) and it all seems to be burials. While these are absolutely fascinating as they give cause of death ( how do you die from "teeth"? ??? ) is that it? I'd quite like the B&M bit as well.
I don't like to sound ungrateful but it would be useful if there was an explanation of exactly what is in the database.
Carole
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Are these all the records from the LMA as they seem to be incomplete. I want to look at the registers of St John Wapping from the 1720s and I've looked at the link for registers 1707-1740 ( well I actually did it in 10 page gaps rather than look at all 430 odd) and it all seems to be burials. While these are absolutely fascinating as they give cause of death ( how do you die from "teeth"? ??? ) is that it? I'd quite like the B&M bit as well.
I don't like to sound ungrateful but it would be useful if there was an explanation of exactly what is in the database.
Carole
Pretty sure they are not complete Carole, i mentioned back on page 7 of this thread i think people should keep looking over the months, as i have checked for some i know should be there and are not,
even the normal BDM are still being added to, when i first started using Ancestry back in .... i searched for my gt Grandparents death records and because they had an unusual name i searched over a long time under different spellings etc,
then a few months ago i found them under the correct spelling in the place i expected them to be, so DEFFO' were recent additions, and it has happened on other people, so i am pretty sure there are records of the LMA to be added,
a pain i know all i can suggest is you have a sheet or notebook to jot down what you have searched years/names etc,
will be interesting if people let us know when they find records not previously found.
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One of the four databases is the undindexed records
You can check through many more Laleham records than are indexed
Bob
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Is anyone else having a problem getting the search box up for the marriage and banns database on AncestryLibrary? I get a small grey box with nothing in it.
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I was using this at City of Westminster Archives today, no problems there.
Dawn
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Cheers, I guess it's probably just the computers down here then.