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Title: william borlase of penzance
Post by: ian.h on Thursday 17 February 05 12:36 GMT (UK)
hi all,
im looking for any info on my great great grandfather  william borlease from cornwall
 (the family name is spelt  borlase on the 1881 census for newport)
 he is on the 1871 census
William Borlease, Head, 44, dob 1827 .Master Mariner, b. (Penzance?) Cornwall.
  many thanks if you can help. atb ian.h
Title: Re: william borlease( borlase)of penzance
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 18 February 05 10:47 GMT (UK)
Sorry Ian...There R no Borlease listed on the 1861 census for Cornwall....Though there r plenty of Borlase I cannot find a William of the right age listed...Kris  :'(
Title: Re: william borlease( borlase)of penzance
Post by: ian.h on Friday 18 February 05 16:06 GMT (UK)
hi kris
many thanks for you help m8,
william borlase (borlase on 1881 census)(  borlease on the 1871 census)(borlase on the 1861 census)
 my great great grandfather  in on the 1861
 gwent fhs census as  living in newport.
 we now no he  was from penzance.
On the 1871 Wales Census there is this family:
William Borlease, Head, 44, Master Mariner, b. (Penzance?) Cornwall.
 my 104 year old grandmother from newport (still alive)said that william borlase  was from a ship building family in penzance ?
 and that we had a sir in the family ( the borlase from cornwall).
 can any one  help.
many thanks ian.h .newport swales.
Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: ian.h on Monday 21 February 05 15:35 GMT (UK)
 we do beleve he had a sister and they went to school in Penzance, many thanks if you  can help.
atb ian. h
Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: Alice.P on Friday 09 September 05 01:27 BST (UK)
I'm sure I've seen the name Borlase in the Madron or Paul registers which border Penzance, will take another look for you tomorrow.
Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: Alice.P on Friday 09 September 05 23:51 BST (UK)
I found a William Borlase from Madron but slightly too early to be your gg grandfather married an Ann Christoe July 21st in Paul 1821. You really need to apply for his birth certificate having family from this part of Cornwall with common names, I'm sure you could easily trace yours with an unusual Cornish name. Good luck Alice.
Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: ian.h on Saturday 10 September 05 12:31 BST (UK)
hi alice
thanks for the reply about  william borlase,
 the william + ann you found is williams mam +dad .
i found ann and  the family on the cocp
 (ann borlase dob 1801) my gr gr gr grandmother.
(william dob 1827)  my gr. gr. grandfather.
(ann dob 1827)
(john dob 1830)
(elizabeth dob 1837)
from penzance on the cocp 1841 census (ho1o7/ 143 part 6) folio 16 page 25.
but there was no sign of gr gr gr grandfather borlase on there,
 i ask for a marriage look up  on  borlase from penzance and had a reply back on william borlase + ann christoe,
im now trying to find any info on my gr gr gr gr grandfather borlase.
my thanks for your help alice.
atb ian.h
Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: Alice.P on Sunday 11 September 05 22:13 BST (UK)
Hello again Ian, I don't know if you have come across this 1851 census on COCP seems to show your family with Ann as sailors wife & children you mention apart from William, HO107/1918 folio 743 pg 30.

Their does also seem to be alot of Borlase families in St Just on genes R & Roots Web family connect may be worth searching?

Alice 
Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: ian.h on Monday 12 September 05 22:02 BST (UK)
hi alice
many  thanks for the 1851 cocp info you found on the family , i must have miss it when i was searching the site  :o. 
 by  1848 william Jr had made his way to newport and was working as a river pilot.
still no sign of his father on the 1851 census :'(
atb ian.h


Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: Alice.P on Tuesday 13 September 05 22:53 BST (UK)
Hi Ian, I forgot to say I found your family in Madron in 1851 census, rather than Paul as in 1841. Sailors wife, certainly sounds more like Navy or Merchant Navy than the normal fisherman, although not having gone down this road myself, but think you should be able to find naval records, somewhere?

Probably in the Spring, I am hoping to go down to Cornwall & look at Parish records as I am at the brick wall stage & can only go wider within my family rather than longer. If you would like to private message me, when I know I am going I'll contact you & would be happy to do a look up or two for you.

Borlase certainly does seem to have some interesting connections & what I find interesting with families from this part of Cornwall is just how inter connected they all were.

Alice
Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: ian.h on Wednesday 14 September 05 09:35 BST (UK)
hi alice
that would be great if you could have a search for the family when your down there if its not to much trouble for you,  i would love to find the missing link in my search for borlase, 
my dad mother who's is 104 years old(she is last of the borlase on my side of the family) have told us lots of story's about the family ,theres talk about a
 castle and having a bit of blue blood in the family.
i will be over the moon if you can help in my search for the family.
pm in my email address to you ,if you need any info drop me a email.
many thanks again alice .
atb ian.h
Title: Re: william borlase of penzance
Post by: Alice.P on Thursday 15 September 05 00:18 BST (UK)
Hello Ian,

I have your e-mail now & will send mine onto you later & as Spring is some time away will e-mail you then, to see where you are in your search.

Incredable to have a grandmother who is a 104, I too was brought up with many Cornish family tales from my grandmother who lived to the megre age of 97 ;)

My interest is in both Geneology & local & social history & as so I am also interested in local families, looking at the name Borlase, their certainly were some important Cornish men with this name one who wrote a book, another was a Sir & a vicar in Madron with this name too.

I have also started a thread about my brick walls from this part of Cornwall & if you come across any possible info about my families in your search, could you please also let me know too.

Alice