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Title: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: bugwit on Sunday 22 March 09 14:14 GMT (UK)
Does anyone have any tips where I could find any street maps of the Toxteth area for 1840/1850. Preferably online but where to purchase them from if not available on line.
Regards,
Dave
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: km1971 on Monday 23 March 09 10:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Dave

What part of Toxteth Park are you interested in? Alan Godfrey Maps have just published the St James' Mount large scale plan from the mid 19th Century, so most of TP above Upper Parliament Street (but only about 15% of the total) is now covered. There are also a few bits below Upper Parliament Street. Most of Toxteth Park would have been undeveloped in 1840-50.

If you google 'old ordnance survey maps' you should find links to a few resellers of OS plans of the period. These can cost £30-40 for good quality copies. Godfrey's use plans from the Scottish Library and the British Library should have copies.

If you are looking for a big-ish street then six inches to one mile will do. But if you are looking for say a court you will need the 50 inch (1:1250) series.

Ken
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: willow154 on Monday 23 March 09 16:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Dave,
not sure whether you will find what you want on here; but I thought I would pass it on to you, just in case.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~genmaps/genfiles/COU_Pages/ENG_pages/lan.htm
It might come in useful at some stage - hope so.
Paulene :)
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: bugwit on Thursday 26 March 09 19:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks to both Ken and Paulene for your help. I will have a look at those suggestions as soon as work and granchildren permit. Thanks once again. Hope you don't mind if I tap your knowledge again soon,

Dave.
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: willow154 on Thursday 26 March 09 19:58 GMT (UK)
That's fine, Dave :)
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: purplekat on Thursday 26 March 09 20:09 GMT (UK)
Just to add, the  link below should take you to the old maps website showing the Toxteth Park area,

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/IndexMapPage2.aspx
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: purplekat on Thursday 26 March 09 20:22 GMT (UK)
Just tried the link myself and it's taking me to the website but the site won't allow me to do a search, whatever I type in I get the message that my search is too big.  Anyone else having this problem?  It used to be an easy site to search  ???

sorry Dave

Jean
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: willow154 on Thursday 26 March 09 20:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
Just tried the link, and it was working Ok.
Paulene :)
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: purplekat on Thursday 26 March 09 23:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks Paulene

It must be a problem with my computer then  :)
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: willow154 on Thursday 26 March 09 23:14 GMT (UK)
it did that the first time, when I clicked on the link - then I looked and realised I'd got the spelling wrong. When I changed it, it was ok - try it again, purplekat (like the name :))
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: km1971 on Friday 27 March 09 08:20 GMT (UK)
I cannot see that you have said which part of Toxteth Park you are interested in. At a large scale - town plan level - that shows street names you could end up buying quite a few.

If you tell me a street I can tell you which map to buy.

Ken
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: bugwit on Saturday 28 March 09 19:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks purplekat and paulene. I will try that link and see what comes up.

Ken,
This request was in connection with an earlier post regarding Jamaica Court, which I was told was  a court in Jamaica st. near Park Place. An ancestor of mine,Alice Smith, is on the cencus of 1841 as living in No 3 Jamaica Court. I was brought up just a few hundred yards from that area and I was curious to see what the area was like in those days. I have a number of local history books with photographs of these old courts some of which I can still remember from my childhhod in the 50s and early 60s. I understand that these particular courts had gone by the 1871 cencus but I need to check that out.
Thanks once again for your help,
Regards,
Dave
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: km1971 on Saturday 28 March 09 19:52 GMT (UK)
You need this from Alan Godrey Maps

Liv 34 Liverpool (Wapping) 1864
Large scale map, taken from the 5' plan and reduced to a yard to the mile. Remarkably detailed map of small area.
Introduction by Kay Parrott
Liverpool Sheet 34
Covers Park Lane, Crosbie Street, Jordan Street, St James Street. Incl Kings Dock, Wapping Dock, Queens Dock, Dukes Dock. 

Price:  £2.25 (Including: VAT at 0%)


With postage it will be about £3.00.


Ken
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: 0rinoco on Saturday 28 March 09 22:19 GMT (UK)
Liverpool map at www.artus-familyhistory.com/source/Early%20Maps.html  1874, but might have  what you need. Click on 'early maps' link.
Regards.
Eric
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: bugwit on Sunday 29 March 09 18:19 BST (UK)
To Ken and Eric,
Thanks once again for your invaluable assistance.
Regards,
Dave
Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: TonyS on Tuesday 14 April 09 10:56 BST (UK)
Hi, check this map out.

Jamaica Court 1864 - click on image to enlarge

(http://www.leverpoole.co.uk/1.3/mapp/th-jamaica-street-1864.jpg) (http://www.leverpoole.co.uk/1.3/mapp/jamaica-street-1864.jpg)


Tony
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Title: Re: Liverpool street maps 1840
Post by: bugwit on Thursday 16 April 09 18:48 BST (UK)
 :) Thanks very much for that Tony. It's exactly what I've been looking for. I am still a bit of a novice in this family history research but maybe I could return the favour one day.

Best wishes,
Dave