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Hi,
This project is a personal one & is not registered with The Guild of One Name Studies (Goons), for the time being, and no on else is registered for this name study, but one day we hope to be able to register with Goons and have information from all over the world on the surname.
Anyone out there have Branthwaites and variants of the surname in their family tree? At the moment the project has just got up and running and have only Branthwaite descendants from lines in Lamplugh in Cumberland but we are hoping people with submit their trees and information from all over the world!!!
We have our own website for the surname and if you would like to have a look http://my.cybersoup.com/branthwaite
Thanks
CK
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I descend from the Branwhites of Lavenham, Suffolk, from the first family of Rowland Branwhite and his 1st wife Sarah (believed to be) Dogget. In the Lavenham parish registers Branthwaite, Branwhite, Bramford and Branford are used at varying times but eventually the descendants of the first family became Branwhite and the second family with his wife Ann Munnings became Branford. Rowland is believed to descend from the Branthwaites (and variations in name) of Thrapston, Northamptonshire.
Like a number of descendants I've been collecting information on this family for a number of years and at some point hope to add it to my genealogy website.
Good luck with the one name study and if you happen to find out who the original Rowland Branthait in Thrapson was, please do let me know. The first reference there I've found is daugther Alicia's baptism in 1588 but there are believed to be 4 children baptised somewhere before that.
Smudwhisk
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Hi just come across your good site.
Don't know if this snippit of info. is any use. My ancestor Herbert Blackburn emigrated via Ellis Island to America on the ship's manifest of 1902 it stated he was travelling to his Uncle J.Branthwaite at six? Mill.... St. Paton N.J. with him on the ship were Joseph W and Isaac Branthwaite aged 29 and 19, all from Rowrah. Herbert's mother was Ann Blackburn nee Richardson no father's name on his birth certficate.
good luck, mgt 37
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;DHi,
I would like to thank you for that post now I know what happened to Joseph William Branthwaite and it will enable me to trace another part of the Branthwaite family who left to go to the USA. I haven't figured out who the Uncle John is right now but won't take me long and the Isaac but I guess that is a project for another day.
By the way my websites have changed now I built two entirely new sites (better at Rootsweb) which you can have a look at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~branthwaite/
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ckfamilyhistory/
Thanks
ChristineK
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Again thankyou for that information. Joseph William and Isaac Branthwaite were brothers their parents were Joseph Branthwaite and Hannah Casson. Joseph was an Iron Miner residing at Rowrah Road in Arlecdon on the 1891 Census.
So Far I haven't been able to find a tie in with Herbert Blackburn I have traced his family back to his parents Thomas and Anne Richardson, Thomas was a Journeyman Blacksmith. In 1891 the Blackburn family were living at Skelsceugh, Arlecdon, Winder but earlier they were at Rowrah.
So the Uncle J Branthwaite remains a mystery so far. Joseph Branthwaite, J W's father had a brother John Branthwaite who married Isabella Softley and I know members of this family emigrated to the USA/Canada so I shall check this out and see what I can come up with.
Regards
ChristineK
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I am descended from Rowland Branthwayte of Thrapston (and still bear the Branwhite variation of the name) but have been unable to go back any furthur than him. I have speculated that there is a link somewhere between him and the similarly named Branthwayte/Branthwaite familythat, according to a record I found on Ancestry.com, came from Sedburgh, which i believe is up near Cumbria. They were well-off merchants, probably wool, and traded in Norwich, where they married locally. Some even wed women from Essex.
A plaque in the church in Lavenham apparently said that the Branwhite family could date their lineage back to 1032 (pre-Norman, explaining the Viking appearence). I am pretty sure my family came from Cumbria at some poin, but i struck a dead end at him.
Has anyone come across a link between Rowland Branthwayte and the Branthwayte/waite family?
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;D A big hello,
I have the Branthwaite Surname Researchers Site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~branthwaite/ and I would love to have your branch info on the site, as the aim is to make it truly national and international with all occurences from all over England and one day the world.
I have the Lamplugh Branthwaite branch back to Anthonie Branthwaite born C. 1625 Lamplugh, Cumberland, England and have descendants to the New Zealand, USA and Australia.
There are a couple of different branches one from Westmoreland as well and we know they are related but can't find a positive connection as yet.
Very interesting you should think there is a link back to the Cumberland lot, can I ask what makes you believe this? Perhaps we could work on this!
Cheers
ChristineK
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The connection to being Cumbrian is a family belief. The original version of Branwhite, which i think is Braithwaite, is derived from Norse, and it is very common up in Cumbria; Branthwaite is another version. There is also a strong blue-eyed/blonde haired gene in my family, and the plaque in Lavenham is also suggesting a pre-Norman connection :)
To be honest, i only have the barest bones of my Lavenham branch, which is mainly the tree itself, but i do know the odd snippet and will happily add them.
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Hi,
Strangely enough family beliefs often come true! Yes I believe the name is derived from old Norse - Taken from the website - (BRANT) (THWAITE)
BRANT - The word Brant is old Norse and means steep.
THWAITE - Thwaite is the old Norse word for a clearing
(Often meant land cleared of trees and undergrowth).
These words are still used in the Cumbrian dialect today.
Brant is not so commonly used as is thwaite I believe the case to be and of course they often took there name in past times from the place where they lived, like a geographic location, there is a Branthwaite in Cumbria. It was an easy way to tell one person from another. In ancient times they took their surname from their ancestral estates and if they moved around from one place to another they were often identified by the place they came from.
How do you pronounce Branwhite as in B+ran and the colour white? Have Branwhite as a surname variation of Branthwaite on the site, could be how it was pronounced, sometimes often behind the variations of a surname and of course how it was spelt over a period of time.
Would welcome your 'bare bones'
Cheers
Christine
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Branwhite is pronounced "bran-white", which led someone to suggest it was an Anglo-Welsh joke once. I commonly get called similar names as well.
The link does not seem to work, by the way. When i clicked it it came up as the front page for cybersoup.com.
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Hi,
Yes, I thought you may say it that way. This is the site address taken straight from the site itself http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~branthwaite/ I don't know why Cybersoup should come up. You can email me through the site also, click on the email icon.
There are Branthwaites in Yorkshire and Sussex and if you look at the distribution of the surname in 1881 you can see that it was most in Cumberland. http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/
Cheers
ChristineK
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The Sussex Branthwaites are possibly a branch off of Rowland, from Thrapston, but that is just a guess. I know that in the late 1800s, my branch of the Branwhite family (typically the poorer branch) were moving into Essex and London by that time.
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A plaque in the church in Lavenham apparently said that the Branwhite family could date their lineage back to 1032 (pre-Norman, explaining the Viking appearence). I am pretty sure my family came from Cumbria at some poin, but i struck a dead end at him.
I've never seen such a placque and have been in Lavenham church several times. There are a number of Branwhite placques at the entrance end of the church but don't remember one stating this! I'll have to have a look at the photos I have but ...Where exactly is it??
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I am not sure, to be honest. It was something i was told by dad, who actually had a proper look around the only time we visisted Lavenham. He might have seen it there somewhere, or been told about it by his dad. The most i can remember about the church is that several of the burials inside the church had been defaced at some point (I can only recall there being one identifiable Branwhite, called Brooke) so the plaque might even have been removed.
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Last time I was there which goes back a couple of years all the Branwhite placques were fully readable. I think they must have cleaned them up in recent years. I'll have to dig out the photos and cheque what's on them but I don't remember anything about a pre-norman connection. My personal belief is also a Cumbrian connection via the variation Branthwaite. Mind you my tree is sufficiently large now stretching almost 20m in length if printed off from FTW, if we can ever prove a connection with Cumbria it could get larger still!!
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At the very least, the Branthwaite/Branwhite name suggests a pre-Norman origin, even if there is no plaque or never was one. I believe there is definately a link between the Thrapston branch and the merchants who lived in Norfolk, however, and if it is so, that would almost certainly be the Cumbrian link.
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Hi
I have been doing my family history for years but only just came across the name of William Branthwaite in the last few weeks. I know of this William as he is mentioned on the marriage of his daughter Agnes Branthwaite to William Plant in 1824. I have not been able to find William Branthwaite on any census so have no idea where he originated from.
Has anyone else got Plants in their family?
Thanks
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Hi LBpaton,
No Plants in my branch of the family unfortunately, but the Lavenham Branwhites are a lot more numerous than I originally thought. Where were yours married?
~ Jacobea