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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: babsjane on Saturday 21 March 09 23:33 GMT (UK)
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hi there
on the great 1911 census i found out that my grandmother had 6 siblings unbeknown to the family. Her name was Mary Ellen craven the only one child to survive. the other six children had died As a family we had heard of 3 of the children, Elizabeth Jane, Henry Tom, Annie Victoria May so i was hoping to find out about the others but nobody in the family knew of them so I went to the Leeds library to the local studies area where in a baptism record for st matthews (little London ) 1885 - 1899 (local church to the family address at the time ) I found a little one called Louisa craven to gr grandparents henry and Susan ( real name Susanna ) craven but no more names were found. I then came home and went on ancestry where i came across a Louisa craven born qtr o/n/d Leeds vol 9b Page 531 1896 which ties in with the baptism record but also on same page there was a Sarah craven so I went back to the library the following day to see if i had missed her in the baptisms and she was not there I was wondering how would i know if Louisa had a twin. Could anyone so kindly advise me or give me an idea what to do now. Is there another way of finding the names of the other children? many thanks
babsjane
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was there any GRO death record for Louisa Craven?
Was there any burial in parish records?
PAUline
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there is a death reg for louisa same qtr year as birth
and death reg for Sarah Craven Sept qtr 1897 leeds age 0 9b 355
I suppose the certain way to know would be to invest in te certificate.
Suz
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On birth certificates of twins is the time they were born, my husband grandfather was a twin (his twin sister died soon after birth) but on his birth certificate is the time he was born. Also my husbands brother and sister who are in their late forties are twins and the time of their birth is also on their birth certificates. When I see a birth certificate I always look to see if there is a time of birth just to check the child is not a twin or from a multiple birth - hope this information may be of help to you.
Kind regards Susan
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Hi,
Have you had a look on www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk ?
1896 Sarah Craven Leeds with the reference number West/220/463
1896 Louisa Craven Leeds with the reference number West/220/464
The numbers follow on so it seems even more likely that they could be twins.
Regards,
Mo
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hi there everyone
thanks for the great response.I have had a look at the Bmd 's Mo and it so shouts out to me that they could be twins but to be 100% sure I have come to the conclusion that i will probably have to get the birth cert. I didn't think to look in the burial records but I am going to go back to the Leeds library and have a good look before i go and buy the cert and while I'm there see if i can find anyone else as i know there is only a a limited window that they could have been born and died in and that is between 1891 -1911.
Do you think its strange that one child was baptized and not the other little girl. Do you think it could have been because she could have been ill?
babsjane --thankyou
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Hi,
On the local registrar entries it usually followed that they were entered in the order they were recorded at the time - unlike the alphabetical GRO entries. I have just tracked the others on the same GRO page as Louisa and Sarah. All were registered in the sub district of Leeds West when looking at Yorkshirebmd:
Number references from Yorkshirebmd
461 Ida Wright
462 Jinnie Coggin
463 SARAH CRAVEN
464 LOUISA CRAVEN
465 Edith Esther Kinder
466 Ella Singleton
467 Florence Hall
468 Edith Butler
469 Sydney Precious
470 James Brook
Do let us know the outcome.
Mo
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thanks Mo
going to try go to library on Thursday when i get a day off work will let you all know if I'm successful
cheers
babsjane :D