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Title: COMPLETED - Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Caicos on Thursday 19 March 09 21:35 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking for Robert Moreton Youd and George Youd who emigrated to New Zealand between 1878 and 1883.

Robert Moreton Youd was born 1846, Cheshire England and appears in the 1871 census with wife Eliza.  Eliza died in Cheshire in 1878.  Robert then appears having children with wife "Annie" from 1883 onwards in New Zealand.

Robert's brother George was born 1855 in Cheshire, England.  He is in the 1871 England census but not 1881 and appears having children from 1883 onwards in New Zealand with wife "May".

I've checked some online passenger lists but can't find when they went to New Zealand (or did they go via somewhere else?) and can't see either of their marriages.

Can anyone point me in the right direction to research?

Thanks

Caicos
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Thursday 19 March 09 21:46 GMT (UK)
YOu will find their shipping details here
http://0-www.aucklandcity.govt.nz.www.elgar.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/passengers/passenger.html
BEN NEVIS 1880 Auckland

BYe
Althea
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 19 March 09 21:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Caicos

Welcome to RootsChat    :)


Just for starters  >>

... from NZ Marriage Index

Robert Moreton YOUD  -   Annie HAGAN  -  Year 1883


Lu

Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: AMBLY on Thursday 19 March 09 22:00 GMT (UK)
Hi
Not sure if you have already seen these...

ARCHWAY, appearsd to have entries for both Robert and George and both of their wives. Looks like "May" was in actual fact, Alice May.
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/Home.do

Both women appear to ben interred in Purewa Cemetery (Alice May 1908, Annie 1969)
http://www.purewa.co.nz/search.asp

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Caicos on Thursday 19 March 09 22:02 GMT (UK)
Wow!  What a quick response.

Thank you Lu and Althea!

I couldn't find either marriage on http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/Home/  so that marriage is a bonus.  

Thank you both again,

Caicos
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Caicos on Thursday 19 March 09 22:05 GMT (UK)
Fantastic AMBLY,

Thank you to you all for your help and new leads.  Lots of new information to work on.

I really appreciate the help,

Caicos
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Thursday 19 March 09 22:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Lu
how weird, none of the YOUD marriages seem to show
ahhhhhhhhh found
under YOND
1883/984 Annie  Hagan  Robert Moreton  Yond 
Bye
Althea 
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Caicos on Thursday 19 March 09 22:46 GMT (UK)
No wonder I couldn't find it!

I've seen lots of mistranscriptions but there doesn't seem to be a wildcard or soundex search.  I wonder what George is indexed as!

Interesting to see the bankruptcy record for George, thanks to all for the links and extra information.

Caicos
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 19 March 09 23:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Althea 

WOW !   Clever you  ... well done ! :)

Found Robert's marriage on the CD  ... but nothing for George (even using soundex  ... and a few other "tricks")

Hmmm  ... puzzling.

Lu
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 19 March 09 23:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Caicos

FOUND

Burial for Robert (1900) is also at Purewa Cemetery (plot, alongside of Annie's)

  ...  BUT  ... is listed on the cemetery database as "YOND" !

(Cheers to Althea again ... for giving us the YOND spelling  :))

Lu

Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 19 March 09 23:57 GMT (UK)

  ... Caicos, when you take a look at Robert's cemetery record at Purewa, you'll see a listing for a 1 year old child (d. 1901) Catherine Vanessa YOND.    (She is buried in the same cemetery location - different plot - but possibly related ?)

Lu

Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 20 March 09 00:19 GMT (UK)
1893 Electoal roll George

Electorate   Waipawa Voting Qualification   Residential
Residential Address   Kumeroa Occupation   Storekeeper

and ?a double entry
Electorate   Hawkes Bay Voting Qualification   Residential
Residential Address   Kaikora North Occupation   Storekeeper

MAY
Surname   YOUD Given Name   May
Number   3992 Electorate   Hawkes Bay
Voting Qualification   Residential Residential Address Kaikora North
Occupation   Domestic duties

makes you wonder whether he could have gone to Aus and married

Burial records or death cert look at this stage only way to solve riddle of her surname which would at least make search easier

Bye
Althea

   

   
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 20 March 09 00:22 GMT (UK)
  ---  Hmmm ....  Historical  ... (or "Hysterical") online listings ?

(Whatever ... we sure get some funny results).   :D

Here you are Caicos  ...

From the online Historical Indexes

Deaths 1900 -  Robert Moreton YOND   1900/641

Deaths 1901  -  Catherine Vanessa YOUD    1901/3612
                          (spelt as YOND on Purewa Cem. listing)

[Just can't find the birth of Catherine YOUD ]  ???

Lu


Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 20 March 09 00:40 GMT (UK)

ARCHWAY, appearsd to have entries for both Robert and George and both of their wives. Looks like "May" was in actual fact, Alice May.
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/Home.do


Mmmm  ... again ?

Just looking at marriages for YOUD & YOND.

Harold George YOND    }      year      1918
Alice May SIMPSON       }    (Source:  NZSG Marriages CD)

I'd be inclined to think that the 1969 cemetery record (Purewa) for an "Alice May YOUD", is very likely to be that of Alice May - wife of Harold George ??

Lu

*   Am assuming Harold George YOND (above) is the same person as >>
BIRTH (from online index)
1895/17428 - YOUD - Harold George Moreton
s/o  -  George and May  :

Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 20 March 09 01:15 GMT (UK)
MAy (1943) and George (1941) buried HAmilton
 http://web.hcc.govt.nz/jsplive/assure32_det.jsp
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Caicos on Friday 20 March 09 10:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks to all of you so much for the extra information.

They are a bit of a branch to my main family so I didn't want to go to the expense of a certificate - just finding out where they disappeared to has been a bonus, especially with all the information you have found for me.

I really appreciate your help with this,

Caicos
Title: Re: Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: Caicos on Saturday 04 April 09 12:41 BST (UK)
Just to update this thread, the marriage of George YOUD and May GREEN has now been found  - 1882 in Adelaide, Australia.

Thanks again for all the help, I'm marking this as complete.

Caicos
Title: Re: COMPLETED - Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 04 April 09 12:49 BST (UK)
 
I am sure everyone that helped you will appreciate you updating them ;D


Trish
Title: Re: COMPLETED - Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: kmart on Wednesday 09 December 09 02:43 GMT (UK)
I was just looking around and see you did a search for Youds to NZ, My great Grand father was George Youd, his first child Claudine was my Great Grandmother. I have struggled to find anything about them, my mum has a cousin who remembers George yYoud, My Granddad died last year, and because his father died before he was born 1919 epidemic, much of the family history was lost.

Did you find anything of interest other than what links are on the chat?

Keryn Martin
NZ

Title: Re: COMPLETED - Youd to New Zealand 1878 - 1883
Post by: sindolf on Saturday 06 February 10 11:51 GMT (UK)
Robert Moreton Youd and George Youd and some of their ancestors are also listed on 'The Youd Families of Cheshire' :
http://wc.rootsweb.com/~kh3

regards
Karl