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I believe that my ancestor Mary Wood was resident at the lodging house in1901 along with 100 others
Has anyone got any information with regard to lodging house or its guests
or anything with regard to Oldham Below Town
This is my first ever message on a notice board so be please be gentle if I have posted it incorrectly
Regards
daveey
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Hi,
Do you have a road name? (or Marys Year of Birth? theres over 100 Mary Woods' in Oldham in 1901)
Oldham was split into quite a few Parishes - Oldham Below town - Oldham Above town, St Marys, Etc - then there were the individual Areas such as Chadderton, Shaw, Royton etc (where I live)
Posting looks fine to me by the way, just need a little more info :)
Gaille
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Hi Daveey and welcome to Rooschat.
I to would be interested in any thing on that address as i had three members of my family at that address in 1901 too.
I had totally forgot about them there , thanks for the nudge :)
Migky ;)
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Thanks for the info
Mary Wood was born in 1857 in Ireland with at least two children a J C Wood born in 1874 in Mosley Lancashire and Herbert Wood born in Aston Under Line in 1883 in Lancashire and died in July 1930
The Model lodging House was in Oldham Below town but unfortunately thats as much as I know
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Thanks for the info
Mary Wood was born in 1857 in Ireland with at least two children a J C Wood born in 1874 in Mosley Lancashire and Herbert Wood born in Aston Under Line in 1883 in Lancashire and died in July 1930
The Model lodging House was in Oldham Below town but unfortunately thats as much as I know
Ok I think I found it from the details you gave for Mary.
Looking at the area its in Failsworth, which was right on the Oldham / Manchester Border
(Google "Grimshaw Street Oldham" and theres a map)
Looking at the map and the area there is a large mill on the other side of Oldham Road thats still standing, I cant think of its name, but I will find out - My brother lives nearby - I suspect that was a cotton mill but when I find the name I will check.Given your Mary was a cardhand, I think that would be a cotton Mill occupation.
If you look at the map you can see the canal, by that there is Firs Ave and Firs St, next to that is an un-named cul-de-sac - the mill is there.
Gaille
edit ignore the struck out parts, wrong area
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Gaille
Thanksfor the info, don't bother your brother I will drive up there next week and have a look round.
Have you any suggestions on how I can trace the ancestors of Mary Wood as she is from Ireland but I know not where
Cheers
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Gaille
Thanksfor the info, don't bother your brother I will drive up there next week and have a look round.
Have you any suggestions on how I can trace the ancestors of Mary Wood as she is from Ireland but I know not where
Cheers
Daveey................ If you figure that one out please tell me!
I have a great grandma & her sister that have put "Ireand" on every document they filled in in England, but no clues as to WHERE in Ireland to help!
Where are you driving up from?
If you need directions just yell, I live locally.
Gaille
Gaille
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Hi
I have an old map of Oldham which shows Grimshaw St, Oldham. It was more or less facing the One in Three public house.
The One in Three is facing the Civic Centre near to where the newest part of the bus station is now on West St. (hope that makes sense)
Regards
Sal
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Hi
I have an old map of Oldham which shows Grimshaw St, Oldham. It was more or less facing the One in Three public house.
The One in Three is facing the Civic Centre near to where the newest part of the bus station is now on West St. (hope that makes sense)
Regards
Sal
Ohhh that makes more sense Sal!
I was wondering why it didnt say Failsworth on the cencus info.
Where the Civic centre is is more where I was expecting it to be - I have to say Failsworth seemed too far out but it was the only Grimshaw street that came up on any of my maps, even the old ones.
Daveey - Ignore my post, I think Sals area is a far more logical one - And 'Below town' would describe the area there better.
Gaille
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Hello Daveey,
Are you sure that is your Mary in 1901 at the lodging house? The one I can see is married to Isaac Wood and they are together in Oldham in 1891. I think there is a possible marriage for them on Free BMD - Isaac Wood and Mary Killmartain in 1881.
Your Mary is here in 1891 RG12; Piece: 3295; Folio 76; Page 55
Wyre Street Ashton Under Lyne which I think you already have. The older son is listed as J C? Do you know the full name? Have you found them in 1881?
There is a big gap between the boys which is also a bit of a puzzle ???
I'll keep thinking and have another look ;)
heywood
This is a possibility for Mary in 1871
RG10; Piece: 4088; Folio: 114; Page: 56
Back Square off Church Street Mossley Ashton under Lyne
Mary Wood 17 yrs lodger cotton operative b Ireland
Mary Hudson head 46 yrs b Ireland
Moris Hudson son 19 yrs cotton operative b Ireland
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Back again :) I do apologise that I am asking lots of questions but I just want to make sure that you are not going off on the wrong road.
I'l just post the link re your post re Herbert so that it makes it easier for people to see what we are talking about.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369377.msg2443425.html#msg2443425
I can see his marriage on Free BMD -Chorley district 1906.
Have you got the certificate?
Is there definitely no father named for Herbert?
Have you checked the 1911 census? Does that say Ashton Under Lyne too? (Just that I can't see him in 1901 at the moment)
I have looked at the 1911 indexes and can see Nancy and Herbert I think but it doesn't show birthplace until you pay. I have tried with Ashton and it fits (Ashton under Lyne didn't show).
As a miner, or looking for work, you can understand that Herbert would move for work but there is also Ashton in Makerfield which is about 10 miles from Wigan (rather than about 30 miles (Standish to Ashton under Lyne).
I'm sorry if I am on the wrong thing altogether here and I am hoping that you have the information re Herbert.
I must add though that at the moment the Herbert you mention is the only one born 'Ashton' in census and that is only in 1891 :(
Added: Think I have found Herbert in 1901 transcribed as 'Hood' and place of birth Ashton under Lyme instead of Lyne
1901 RG13; Piece: 3801; Folio: 204; Page: 3
22 Carr Hill Rd Mossley
Herbert Wood boarder 18 yrs Cotton mixer b Ashton under Lyne
he is lodging with a Bradbury family so sadly doesn't give any info.
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Hello again,
I've been thinking about this today- perhaps you have the right Herbert and mother Mary (1891) but not the right Mary in 1901.
Does the marriage certificate give any clues- addresses or witnesses?
The child J C Wood should be around with Mary in 1881 but I can't see them :-\
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Thanks for all your help ladies and gentelmen you certainly have opened up some more avenues
Sadly I have no more documentary evidence at this time with regard to Herbert, Mary or JC. The only other fact is that I have found Herbert and Nancy@s ( Norburn) grave in Darwen Cemetery, it is only a simple grave purchased under the perpetuity scheme with no headstone at the time of both their deaths.
I do apologize for not getting back to you earlier due to working away however thanks again for all your hard work
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Can anyone tell me what was model lodging house oldham as my faily member isaac wood age 48 was in there
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Hi
You might find this interesting.
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/lodging/
In 1911, was your Issac Wood in the Oldham Workhouse/
Heather
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dont know not got that far