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Title: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: Antoinette 12 on Thursday 19 March 09 19:31 GMT (UK)
I have tried to find him and some kind and patient people in the chatroom have tried too but nothing certain can be found of him before 1901 when he was 33 years old! So perhaps somebody who likes a puzzle can put me out of my misery.Here are the facts I have of him. He was born in St.Martin in the fields London in 1867/68. His fathers name was John White and on Edward's 1903 marriage cert he puts his father's occupation as Messenger at the House of Lords (deceased).In the 1901 census he was a pub manager at the Flower Pot, 120 Bethnal Green Rd.Bethnal Green.He is listed as single although  he was living with his future wife ,Maud, and they had a son also Edward who was a year old.The 1911 census finds him married to Maud and they have 3 more children. He is a publican and they are living at 177,Southwark Bridge Road London which was a pub called the Old Justice.Also on his marriage cert. in 1903 he states that he is a widower but in 1901 he says his single! Other than that all I know is when he was a boxer and in 1887 he was ABA heavy weight champion of England
and after won the Professional one too. It was also said that his family originally came from Scotland but Im not too sure of this. Well thats about all I have. Im just hoping someone can throw a bit of light on this as it is driving me crazy. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Heres hoping
Antoinette
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: Sisterjane on Thursday 19 March 09 20:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Antoinette

There is in 1871 a Edward White b 1867 with father John but he is born St Giles in the Field..if you would like details I will gladly post them..

Jane
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: deryckjohn on Thursday 19 March 09 21:04 GMT (UK)
And in 1881 he is born in 1868 in St Martins.


Class: RG11; Piece: 338; Folio: 67; Page: 14

Deryck
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: Sisterjane on Thursday 19 March 09 21:13 GMT (UK)
1891 cencus has an Edward G White age 26 who is a licensed Victualler in Camberwell-Surrey but it says he was b Peckham although something has been crossed out.He is single and down as lodger.

Jane
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: Antoinette 12 on Thursday 19 March 09 21:30 GMT (UK)
thank you Jane if you could post me the details it would be very helpful It would be great if it was him
I had given up hope!

antoinette
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: Antoinette 12 on Thursday 19 March 09 21:34 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Deryck Im going to look this up right now hopefully this could be the elusive Edward
Fingers Crossed !

Antonette
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: Sisterjane on Thursday 19 March 09 21:52 GMT (UK)
This is the same family as Derryk found in 1881

1871 Cencus-St Giles in the Field
RG9/342/31/55

All born St Giles - Middlesex

White


John 60 head        Shoemaker
Sarah 50 wife
Louisa 14 dau
Edward 4 son
Thomas Beattie 17 Unm Son in Law     Labourer

Jane

Added The son in law is possibly a stepson..I will check it out
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: deryckjohn on Thursday 19 March 09 22:01 GMT (UK)
In 1891 widowed Sarah White is living with daughter Louisa who is married to William T Smithers (Mar 1876 St Giles).

Class: RG12; Piece: 1354; Folio 77; Page 23

In the 1881 family Ellen, recorded as daughter was most likely a grandaughter.

Eleanor E Smithers     14 in 1891, Ellen White 4 in 1881.

Deryck
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: Sisterjane on Thursday 19 March 09 22:20 GMT (UK)
1891 Cencus-Camberwell
RG12/477/67/24
Huguenot Rd


Mary A Southcott 53 head Wid b Paddington    Kept by Son
John H  " 28 son b Bermondsey        Cook
Lewis Jas " 26 son b  "        Assistant Hosier
? Lilian 20 niece b Peckham     Laundress
Ernest Victor 16 Nephew b "
Edward G White 26 Lodger b Peckham   Licensed Victualler and Butler
Robert Mann 24 Lodger b "
James Howlett 19 " b "

Jane
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: Antoinette 12 on Friday 20 March 09 18:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you Jane and Deyrick for taking the time to research for me .I have looked at John White (the shoemaker) and although dates and times match the occupation for John does not seem right because he was supposed to be a 'white collar worker'. although the occupation'shoemaker' did ring a bell because i remember my mum telling me that her uncle was a shoemaker, so i thnk I will try and trace him back and see if he had a cousin called John. Hopefully I will get some joy there.

Many thanks again

Antonette
Title: Re: edward white why cant I find him?
Post by: researchninja on Friday 26 January 18 06:12 GMT (UK)
Hello! I am looking for this exact family also.

I am descended from his sister, Louisa White! I wasn't sure if these siblings on the census were accurate or not until I saw your post. Did you perhaps make any more progress down the White line?