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Seeking help for 2xgreat grand parents Edmund Rossiter born Doulting Somerset 1825 died Queensland Australia 1895 and Isabella Joice born 1831 Doulting. They married Oct 1851 Doulting. Any information greatly appreciated thank you
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If you do not have them
Doulting baptisms
1825 Jun 19, Edmund, s/o John & Jean ROSSITER, Bodden, labourer
1831 Apr 16, Isabella, d/o George & Anne JOYCE, Bodden, Yeoman
Doulting marriages
1828 May 19
JOYCE George, otp, b
SAGE Anne, otp sp
wits: John HUNTLY, Martha CANDY, Banns
Ian C
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Hi roscow, welcome to RootsChat.
There is info re; Doulting on Somerset OPC at Genuki.
Leonie.
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1851 - HO107/1933/F430/P3
Bodden, Doulting
John ROSSITER, head mar 68, Freestone mason labourer, born Somerset, Bath
Eliza ROSSITER, dau u 30, Housekeeper, born Somerset, Doulting
Charles ROSSITER, son u 27, Cordwainer, born ditto
Edmund ROSSITER, son u 25, Farm laborer, born ditto
a couple of houses away on same census page
George JOYCE, head mar 47, Farm laborer, born Somerset, West Cranmore
Ann JOYCE, wife mar 43, born Somerset, Doulting
Isabella JOYCE, dau u 20, Milliner & dressmaker, born ditto
Alfred JOYCE, son u 18, Farm laborer, born ditto
Elizabeth Ann JOYCE, dau 13, Servant, born Somerset, Stoke Lane
Clara JOYCE, dau 11, Scholar, born ditto
Theophilus JOYCE, son 6, Scholar, born ditto
Ann JOYCE, mother wid 78, Pauper, born Somerset, North Wootton
next house on same census page
Abel ROSSITER, head mar 22, Ag laborer, born Somerset, Doulting
Mary ROSSITER, wife mar 23, born Somerset, Shepton Mallet
Harriet J ROSSITER, dau 4mo, born Somerset, Doulting
Abel is Edmund's brother baptised 25 Dec 1828 at Doulting
Ian C
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Hello there,
See also http://www.cranmore-somerset.co.uk
This has a photo of St Aldhelms church in Doulting.
Jo
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Hope this might assist:Edmund Rossiter farm labourer in Somerset, publican, tannery owner,
son of John Rossiter and Jean (Jane)
christened 19 June 1825, Doulting, Somerset
died 1895
married December qtr 1851, Shepton Mallett, Somerset
only lived a couple of houses away in 1851
Isabella Joyce milliner and dressmaker
daughter of George Joyce and Ann(e) Sage
(married 19 May 1828, Doulting)
born c1831, Champions, Shepton Mallett, Somerset
children:
possible children born in Somerset
Elizabeth Ann Rossiter
married 12 October 1874 William Andrew Boasley
1857 Eliza Jane Hending Rossiter
married 1880 John Cowderoy
1859 Emma Sarah Hending Rossiter
married 1880 Walter Brook Starkey
1861 Edmund Charles John Hending Rossiter
died 1870 - drowned -
1863 Albon George Harding Rossiter
married 1890 Isabella Enever
1867 Isabella Rossiter
married 1891 James Carmichael
1869 Emily Clara Priscilla Rossiter
married 1891 Robert James Hamilton
1870 Charles Edmund John Hending Rossiter
married 1893 Annie Louisa Law
1872 Robert James Sampson Saige Rossiter
married 1894 Emily Dorcas Longland.
Would appreciate any corrections, additions - particularly date/ship to Australia.
Spelling in records varies: Hending/Harding; Albon/Albin; Joice/Joyce, Sage/Saige etc
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Hi,
A Big Welcome To RootsChat ;D
Edwin ROSETER 27 and his wife Isabella 21 are listed as arriving in Brisbane 17 Jan 1853 aboard the PARSEE (They were from Somerset)
http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/index/immigration.asp
Looks like all births were in Queensland
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/mainMenuSubmit.m?main_menu=IndexSearch
Cheers Kris :)
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Births in Brisbane
Elizabeth Anne ROSSITER 1854 B1307 parents Edman and Isabella
Eliza Jane Hending ROSSITER 29 Apr 1857 B369 parents Edmund and Isabella JOICE
Emily Sarah Hending ROSSITER 22 Apr 1859/B989 parents Edmund and Isabella JOICE
Edmund Charles John Hending ROSSITER 6 Aug 1861/B737 parents Edmund and Isabella JOICE
Albion George Harding ROSSITER 22 Feb 1863/B1642 parents Edmund and Isabella JOICE
Isabella Hendring ROSSITER 1 Jul 1867/B7334 parents Edmund and Isabella JOYCE
Emily Clara Priscilla ROSSITER 18 Nov 1868 1869/B9223 parents Edmund and Isabella JOYCE
Charles Edmund John Hending ROSSITER 9 Feb 1870/B10963 parents Edmund and Isabella JOYCE
Robert James Sampson Saige ROSSITER 7 Jul 1872/B14303 parents Edmund and Isabella JOYCE
Cheers Kris :)
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Hi Kris,
Hope all is well with you.
I'm researching this family too.In addition to your listing I also have an Alfred William Abel Hending Rossiter born circa 1864 in Brisbane.
He married Jane Marion Purdie in Queensland in 1891.Unfortunately I have no details about Jane but I do have rough details of at least 5 children if any one needs them.
Not been able to get back beyond Edmund's parents so far.
I am also trying to get this family up to date and would appreciate any information that roscow is willing to share please.
Have a good day.
Best wishes, rcuser
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Hi rcuser,
All well with me thanks.
Seems your chap was born in Somerset. Must have been home on a visit
ROSSITER Alfred William Abel Hending Shepton M 5c 576
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=1852817
Cheers Kris :)
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Possible for John's baptism
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=1851558
Cheers Kris
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Edmund and Isabella lived in Margaret Street, Brisbane after their arrival and Isabella set up a business in her trade. Did they return to England for a visit? I found an outbound reference for Mr and Mrs Rossiter and five children leaving for England in the 1870s. There seems to be quite a gap in the arrival of children at this time. Obviously he was back to take on the Enoggera Hotel. There is a photo of the Rossiter Brothers tannery on Picture Australia. After the hotel, Edmund and his son in law went into the tannery trade. The son in law later left the business and Edmund's sons joined the business. My interest in the family comes about from my research to people who lived on Portion 272, Parish of Enoggera - the establishment of the Enoggera Hotel by Jacob Walters and the following owners/publicans. Albon Rossiter was named after Isabella's younger brother.
1851 Censuses for both are available Shepton Mallett, Somersetshire for both families (before their marriage in the December qtr of that year. My information file on Portion 272 will be available at the Windsor and Districts' Historical Society, Windsor Council Chambers, Brisbane in about a fortnight. (Sorry for a certain South Australian but I can try to answer any questions)
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Great! The post of the baptism of Alfred William Hending Rossiter in October 1864 means the passenger list mentioning Mr and Mrs Rossiter and five children outbound for England must have been them. Odd bits: Edmund Rossiter was added to the electoral roll for the District of Stanley (includes Brisbane) February 1856, Margaret Street, Brisbane, qualification - land owner. Edward Rossiter was chairman of the Balmoral Divisional Board in 1898-99 (local government). Lived corner of Bridgewater and Rossiter Streets. The name of the tannery was Keralgerie Tannery on 15 acres of land along Mornington Crescent which he took up in 1876. . In 1900, it burnt down. The Enoggera Hotel was started by Jacob Walters in 1864, and it seems that Rossiter was there in 1867 (obviously after the trip home to Doulting).
The funeral of son Charles - about 9 years - took place Sunday 10 April 1870. He drowned in a local waterhole on his way home from school. A large corroboree was held near the hotel in 1871 and as a result Mrs Rossiter was charged for supplying spiritous liquors to "the aborigines of Australia". She was found guilty and fined £5 and 3/6 costs. There were several more corroborees afterwards but a little further away form the hotel. An area of rain forest not too far from the hotel (Three Mile Scrub) was an important aboriginal gathering point since early settlement. In the 1870s cattle etc sales were conducted at the hotel and this led to the establishment of permanent sale yards on the next property. On May 6 1872 the hotel and 1 acre 2 roods 36 perches was put up for sale by the mortgagee. I don't know yet if Rossiter owned or just leased the hotel of it was sold at that time. Rossiter was still there on Boxing Day 1872 as he organised a large sport day - racing, rifle shooting, foot racing, long and high jumping, jumping in sacks, giant swing and other games including quoits. There was music provided and dancing in the evening. Rossiter often had sports days. The hotel was in an excellent position on the Great Northern Road - the way out of Brisbane to the Gympie goldfields (around 1868 onwards). The hotel burnt down in 18 November 1876, re-built in 1877 by the owner H.M. Kavanagh, that new hotel was put up for sale as Kavanagh was insolvent in 1879. The leasee at the time built a new hotel a little closer to town and obtained a license. A new leasee of the old hotel from the Bank of New South Wales was then un-successful in obtaining a licence. The new sited hotel was called the Newmarket Hotel and is still in business on the new site. It sounds as if Rossiter left after the fire.
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Hi Kris,
Good to hear that all is well.
Thanks for the correction. Unlike the other members of the family I only have a rough date of birth for him. Never thought they would come back and probably concluded he was born there. Nice to have a more exact date.
Had reached a bit of a dead end with this family but am hopeful that I might be able to progress things a bit.
Am currently trying to help another Australian researcher with present day Rossiters from Carramar, NSW.
Have a good day.
Best wishes,
rcuser
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Correction: It was Albin George Henry Rossiter who was appointed to the Balmoral Divisional Board in 1895 and later chairman. Also the modern suburb of the tannery site etc is Morningside. As well evidently a Mr Massey owed Rossiter rent (reason yet unknown) and it was advertised on 31 August 1867, that Rossiter had taken him to court - Distaint for Rent. "The Bailiff will cause to be Sold, on the premises of the above named Massey, known as the Enoggera Hotel,on MONDAY the 2nd September, at 12 o'clock noon, Cattle, Horses, Poultry, Household Furniture, &c., &c., unless this distress be previosly satisfied." That was September - the next reference is Rossiter advertising the hotel to visitors on 30 November 1867. So I guess that is how Rossiter got into the hotel business. Mrs Rossiter's usual trade in Brisbane was Milliner and Dressmaker.from when she arrived in January 1853. In 1856 she said"Having obtained assistance from England, with the latest fashions, she will be able to execute any orders,at the shortest notice, and of the newest fashions."
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Additional: 5 February 1864: Mr & Mrs Rossiter and five children departed for London from Brisbane on the Black Ball Line's FIERY STAR - 1360 tons, Captain Yule.
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My thanks to contributors for their information. The former Enoggera Hotel is said to have been situated Farm Street and Enoggera Road which would have it in proximity to the now Newmarket Primary School. From memory (I grew up in Enoggera and left the area age 21) not a long distance from the current Newmarket Hotel. Mrs Rossiter's intemperate deed would still be punishable by law in certain areas of Queensland.
I have not been able to find birth details for either John Rossiter or Jane Hending. John's birth could have been c1783 from death record 23/11/1862 age 79. This year is given support from a copy of his gravestone inscription the year date not being legible. However the transcriber (who took the photo) has 17/11/1863 age 80. Jane, from the same inscription, 23/8/1832 age 47. The death record 27/8/1832 age 45 placing her birth year 1785 to 1787. Would welcome any corrections or information.
Regards
Zane
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Question: When did the Rossiters plus Alfred William arrive back in Brisbane after they left in 1864 and how did they get into the hotel business?
They were certainly back in 1867 for the birth of Isabella. In August of 1867 Edmund Rossiter put in a claim over John Massey for rent arrears. The bailiff advertised that he would sell Massey's goods. "MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, DISTRAINT FOR RENT, ROSSITER V. MASSEY.
The Bailiff will cause to be Sold, on the premises of the abovenamed Massey, known as the Enoggera Hotel, on MONDAY, the 2nd September, at 12 o'clock noon, Cattle, Horses, Poultry, Household Furniture, &c., &c., unless the distress be previously satisfied. G.E. O'BRIEN, Bailiff." The next reference I can find is an advertisement for the hotel that it is on "by far the most attractive of all the suburban drives" and that he has stock of the very best drinks published on 20 November signed by Rossiter. Massey is listed as publican 1866-68 and Rossiter 1868-75.
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The following is a link to possible marriage of John Rossiter and Jane Hending
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFMG-KXN (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFMG-KXN)
and this is the most likely christening record for Jane
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6Q3-VB9 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6Q3-VB9)
parents: Thomas Hendon and Elizabeth Seymore
siblings: Elizabeth, Ann, Mary, Sarah, Abel and Priscilla
I have not been able to find any records relating to John's birth.
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Thanks rjross good possibilities. I have not been able to find a birth record for John Rossiter either.