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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: raine on Wednesday 18 March 09 16:12 GMT (UK)
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would some kind person be able to look at the census for 1901,and tell me if a annie holly and her family are still at 85 carmarthen road swansea glamorgan,[i helping a friend out with this one].she a widow age 48 in 1891 census,which i already found,i cant seem to get her in any other census at present,thanks in advance raine
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before plunging in, assume you've searched for a death ?
.... and was her name Shean previously ? (oldest Holly child is 7, but a son Richard Shean is 26)
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is this her
1901
RG13/5079/41/21
ann holly age 58. b. haverfordwest. occ. charwoman. head.
emily holly age 13. b. swansea
living at;85,car------ road,st.marks,swansea
the only problem it looks like it states married?
could SKS give an opinion
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yes to both that brillant work thank you,the name shean i thought maybe she been married before but at present i cant find a marriage for that name,or her marriage to mr holly so I'm still on that one but i cant thank you both enough, ;D
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cant see them in 1881, but 1871 has 2 Richards of the right age - one a Grandson...
t'other with his family as an inmate of Swansea Workhouse
1871 - RG10/5458; Folio: 61; Page: 11 - Swansea Union Workhouse
all state born Swansea
Ann Shean 30 MARRIED Inmate Domestic Servant
John Shean 10 Inmate
Margaret Shean 6 do
Richard Shean 4 do
Catherine Shean 2 do
Sarah Shean 1 month do
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The other lad is with Grandmother Margaret ..
1871 - RG10/5454; Folio: 86; Page: 21 - Swansea
Mill Street, 2 Mill Row
Margarett Shean 68 WID Head Housekeeper Ireland
Patrick Shean 32 UNMarried son Labourer do
Mary Shean 11 Grand dau Swansea
Richd Shean 4 Grandson do
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My recommendation would be to get the Birth Cert of one of the kids shown in 1891, to reveal Annie's former names - and their Dad !
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thank you very much that's the best help I've had yet and so fast,it greatly appeciated my friend will be most pleased, ;D
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Looking at Richard - the closest I could get to a Birth entry (and the only Welsh one in a +/- 2 year period):-
Births Sep 1866
Sheehan Richard Swansea v11a p593
and it looks like that 1871 Margaret Shean GrandMother was also called Sheehan in 1861 ...
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Keep this on the 'back burner' for now - might be all coincidence !
1861 - RG9/4097; Folio: 4; Page: 6 - Swansea, Llangyfelach
Squars? Row, Mile End, Heath Road, 7 ?
Note that the Head is a Richard ....
Richard Sheehan 46 Head Copperman Ireland
Margaret Sheehan 51 Wife Ireland
John Sheehan 25 son Lab at Copperworks do
Patrick Sheehan 22 son do
James Sheehan 20 son do
Mary Sheehan 19 dau Ireland
Johanna Sheehan 23 dau do
Anna ?? Married / UnMarried ?? Sheehan 19 dau do
Mary Sheehan 15 Mo Grand Dau do
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thanks i been in touch with my friend and he just received a certi and he said the mother maiden name was Ann Slater so now i got a bit more to go on,and i thinking that Richard that was with his grandmother was the right one but thank you for the info you were very very helpfull,
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doh ! 30 minutes earlier :D
So where does Richard Shean / Sheehan fit in - maybe the Enumerators mistake and he wasnt a Son at all ?
Certainly a merry dance and a few coincidences with the names in earlier yeras ! ;)
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ah-ha !
Marriages Jun 1881
HOLLEY Michael Swansea v11a p902 possibly to SLATER Ann
Deaths Jun 1887
Holly Michael 60 Swansea v11a p477
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Matches the PoB shown by Wozzle in 1901 ...
1881 - RG11/5360; Folio: 45; Page: 35 - Swansea Town
19, Mill Street
That address is familiar ?
No occupations shown
Sarah Slater 62 WID Head HaverfodW Pembroke
Caroline Slater 42 WID ? dau do
Ann Slater UnM 36 dau do
Catherine Slater UnM 28 dau do
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well this gets better all the time thanks again the marriage dates and death are things we haven t got
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would it be possible for you to pin point Thomas holly in 1901 census age 18 yrs in st marks parish swansea this was Ann holly son,i hope you wont mind me asking? he was a sea man.thanks
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cant see him :(
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ok thanks anyway,if you do spot him i be most grateful thank you for all your help,
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Hi both :)
He's on board the Sappho (Royal Navy) in Delagoa Bay off Lourenço Marques, an ordinary seaman age 18.
RG13/5333 37 6
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thank you very much this is greatly appreciated
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excellent Tati !
now why dont they cross-link Royal Navy 'Districts' to the Welsh census too - sort of global after all !
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1861
here is the slater family. no ann though
RG9/4105/70/19
john slater age 35. b. ireland. occ. labourer.head.
sarah age 40. b. haverfordwest. wife.
elizabeth age 10. b. swansea. daughter.
catherinre age 5, b, ditto. daughter.
living at. 19,mill street,swansea.
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same address as 1871 :)
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Thank you once again for all the help given with the family's[holly]slater]its very much appiecated ;D