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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: LizzieW on Saturday 14 March 09 16:47 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone have access to any Parish birth records? According to IGI, my 2 x g.grandfather had a brother born about 1822 called "Shibbolette Esau" Mumby. I cannot find any other trace of this person. However, there is a man called Simeon Mumby born about the same time (estimated from census entries). According to Lincs.Marriage Index, Simeon's father was called George, which was also the name of my 2 x g.grandfather's father.
Coincidence, or do you think Shibbolette Esau and Simeon are the same person?
Lizzie
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As far as I can see in my marriage index, there was only one George MUMBY active around that time.
George MUMBY married Mary ROGERS Boston 1805 - no kids till 1814 ???
Simeon and Shib - I suspect they were the same person.
Some burials
George 23 July 1852 (74)
Charlotte 12 Aug 1824 (8 wks)
Eliza 30 Jan 1818 (4)
Arabella Charlotte 27 May 1827 (18m)
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Geoff
Many thanks for that. My 3 x g.grandfather George was married to a Mary. I didn't know her name, but guessed it might have been Rogers, as their first child born in 1815 was baptised James Ro(d)gers.
Can you give me any more info about their 1805 marriage? Perhaps where they married and their ages.
Their children (according to IGI) were James Rodgers abt.1815, George Reuben (my 2 x g.grandfather) abt. 1818 Elizabeth Eliza abt.1820, Sibbolette/Simeon abt 1822, Sarah Charlotte about 1824 and Arabella Charlotte abt 1825. I did find the deaths of Charlotte (?Sarah Charlotte) and Arabella Charlotte on FindMyPast Parish Burials. I don't know if the Eliza buried 30 Jan 1818 is another of their children or not. Was she their first born after their marriage? Maybe they had miscarriages or stillbirths before the live babies started to arrive.
Thanks
Lizzie
ps. What is your marriage index?
pps. Got to log out now,I think OH is getting our evening meal ready, so need to show some support. ::)
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Hi Lizzie, quite new at this site, but have been reading some of your posts re Mumby Family. George Mumby and Mary Bolton were my 3xg grandparents. They married 13 July 1806 in Rothwell, Yorkshire. I almost show the same children as you from IGI. James Roger Mumby b 1815 Boston, Lincoln d Apr.1861. He married Maria Newton c 1843. Children, Betsy 1844, Charles 1847, George H 1849 Rebecca 1860.
George Reuben Mumby b 1818 Boston m Mary Ann Stanton c 1846, she was born 1827 in Pinchbeck. George remarried Betsy Steele 1881 in Hull. (St.Matthews). Children of George and Mary, Eliza c 1845 d 1865 .Martha 1847, John George 1854, m Eliza Fenwick 1874 Hull, (Holy Trinity) Frances Maria 1855 m Joseph Moore 1874, Elizabeth 1857, James William 1857 d 1886, Celina (Selina) H.1860 m Thomas Baulton Benson 1879 Hull (St. Barnabas Church) Charles H. 1862 m Jenny Andrews 1897 Hull (Holy Trinity).
Elizabeth Eliza Mumby, born 1820, a convict transported to Tasmania, m Isaac Salter in Tasmania. That is my connection. Simeon Mumby b 1822 Boston m Elizabeth ? 1841 in Boston, she was born 1822. Simeon's occ was sailor. Children, Jane 1846, Frederick 1848, Lavinia 1850, William G. 1852, Robert 1854. Gotta go.
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In 1851 he is just plain Simon and his occupation was Iron Founder(Moulder)
Jane
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The 1841 marriage of Simeon...There is an Elizabeth Misdel on the same page
Jane
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1841 cencus has an Eliza Misdall 25 living in Boston
If you would like details I will post them
Jane
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Hi Lizzie, I think Shibbolette Esau and Simeon were two different people. Shib. b 1821, christened 13 Jan 1822, Boston, Lincoln. Simeon b 1822. Sarah Charlotte b 1824 Boston, Lincoln, christened 3 June 1824 Boston, Lincoln. Arabella Charlotte b 1825 Boston d 27 May 1827 Boston. Christened 19 Dec. 1825.
Elizabeth Eliza was Christened 24 March 1820 at St. Botolph's Church, Boston.
I hope you get something out of that, I do have a bit more on next generation down, cheers
Lance
Hi Jane yes pls post details re Elizabeth Misdel.
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Here yer go
1841 Cencus-Boston
HO107/613/5/25/5
Church Lane
All born Lincolnshire
Sarah Misdall 65
Eliza " 25 Dressmaker
Enoch Relk 25 Shoemaker
Joseph Halbert 25 Tailor
Jane
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Interesting ;D
Presume you have 1841 Census with Simeon indexed as SUNCON :) and parents George and Mary?
Trish
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Hi Trish, thanks for that I will check it out.
Lance
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Hi Lizzie, this may be of interest, found on GENUKI : Lincolnshire newspaper reports of Bastardy Cases.
Boston Petty Sessions 10 December 1847, An order was made upon Wm. Kennerby, of Old Bolingbroke, servant, for payment of 2s a week and costs towards the maintenance of a bastard child belonging to ELIZA MUMBY, now a convict confined in the gaol at Boston.
Also this, on Convicts Database - Lincolnshire County Council.
CONVICTS DETAILS : MUMBY ELIZA age 26, CRIME : Stealing11 lbs of beef, 2 quarts of wine, 2 bottles, 2 basins, 1lb of butter and 4 lbs of bread, the property of Francis Robinson and another at Frampton.
PLACE of CRIME: Frampton / Holbeach. Court: HQS, Trial date 18/10/1847, sentence 7 tears, ship "TORY" destination Tas. Transportation date 1848. Sources used: Minute Book.
Other remar ks: SINGLE WOMAN, previous conviction on 2 January 1843. Mary, the wife of George Mumby, 67, of Frampton, labourer, was accused of receiving the stolen goods, and was sentenced to 6 months imprisonment with hard labour. etc etc. Document ref: HQS A/2/22 (vol). victim Wm. Boulding .
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continuing. Eliza MUMBY court case.
Eliza Mumby was also accused of stealing 9 pairs of socks, 2 yards of ribbon, a scarf, 2 yards of orleans dress, 2 coats, 3 pinafores, 5 ties, 2 flannel jackets, a petticoat, a shirt, a pair of shoes, a pair of leggings, 2 pairs of gloves, 2 capes and 2 caps, the property of William Boulding of Holbeach at Holbeach, was not sentenced on that charge.
On Eliza's convict sheets, the names of her parent's are shown as father: George Mumby, mother Mary. Also shown is brothers, James, George and Simeon and sister Marianne.
cheers
Lance
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SisterJane and Trish - Thanks for your input.
Lance - I'll send you a PM, or my reply on here will be too long.
Lizzie
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oh great, another tea leaf in the family!!! it really was a different world wasn't it!! Sarah