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Title: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 15:58 GMT (UK)
Hi!
Could one of you kind souls please help? I am looking for the marriage of ROBERT KIDD b 1900 Norwich to PRUDENCE        b 1902. No other info I am afraid!
I have failed miserably and would appreciate a little help..
Cheers
Robin
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: Necromancer on Tuesday 10 March 09 15:59 GMT (UK)
any idea when their 1st child was born ?

Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:01 GMT (UK)
Hi

Those birthdates are late enough that a marriage might not yet have been transcribed on FreeBMD.  Have you looked through the full GRO index?

I agree with Laird of Lynn that if you have details about any children of theirs (though please don't name anybody still living) it might well help in the search.

Anna :)
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:03 GMT (UK)
Also, do you have death dates for Robert and/or Prudence?  Every little helps.

Anna
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:04 GMT (UK)
Ah ha that would be why I struggled on BMD! If they married around 20 ish then the 1st child would have been born around 1920 22 ish
Thanks
Robin
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:05 GMT (UK)
Robert died dec 21st 1959 is buried at Briston. Prudence died 29 April 1981 buried at Holt
R
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:07 GMT (UK)
Is there a child of theirs (not still living) whose name & approx birthdate/place you know?  The birth registration index will give mother's maiden name, which would help in finding the marriage and Prudence's origins.

Anna
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:09 GMT (UK)
I will have to pop over to the graveyard where I know one of the eldest sons is buried which will help things.
Thank you so much
R
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:10 GMT (UK)
Prudence died 29 April 1981 buried at Holt


Yes, I see:

Death Jun qtr 1981

Prudence KIDD born 6 Sep 1902, Norwich Out. 10 1918
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:12 GMT (UK)
Robert died dec 21st 1959 is buried at Briston.

Death Dec qtr 1959

Robert KIDD aged 60, N.Walsham 4b 533

Neither of them had a middle name!
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:15 GMT (UK)
Pru born in Norwich thats quashed a family rumour that she came from Wisbech,
Thanks Anna
R
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:17 GMT (UK)
Pru born in Norwich thats quashed a family rumour that she came from Wisbech,
Thanks Anna
R

No, that's her death registration place!
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:18 GMT (UK)
I can get back from Robert ok census etc  but its this Prudence issue which is bugging me.
Ok then she could have come from Wis after all!
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 16:20 GMT (UK)
Wisbech could be a useful clue.  The only Prudence born in Norfolk in the correct quarter was this one:

Prudence Olive DAVIS Sep qtr 1902 Freebridge Lynn 4b 302

(I think Freebridge Lynn borders on Wisbech registration district?)
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 17:02 GMT (UK)
Did as you suggested re children and think I have found her!!  found one of childrens births which gives maiden name of mother( Waterfield) then searched 1911 census for Prudence, no luck but found Prudy Waterfield  born right year, family in Horse dealing which fits as Roberts family on 1901 census were Hawkers which fits family storys also some of her siblings have weird names which were passed on to her and Roberts children.
Thanks a lot without the tips would not have got this far and have been puzzling over this for months
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 17:21 GMT (UK)
Brilliant!

I see no fewer than 9 Kidd/Waterfield births registered 1923-1934, all in Erpingham district.

Anna
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 17:23 GMT (UK)
You mention hawkers & horse dealers and unusual names.  Were they travellers/Roma?  If so they may not have had an official marriage but instead followed traditional nuptial rites in their community.

Anna
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 10 March 09 17:26 GMT (UK)
Prudence, no luck but found Prudy Waterfield  born right year, family in Horse dealing which fits as Roberts family on 1901 census were Hawkers which fits family storys

Birth Sep qtr 1902

Prudie WATERFIELD Aylsham 4b 84

Anna :)
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: madpants on Tuesday 10 March 09 17:27 GMT (UK)
There were no Kidd /Waterfield marriages between 1920 and 1940 - I've looked   ::)
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 19:36 GMT (UK)

So far Prudy seems to fit with the family history. The weird christian name of her sibling totally fits too I have always wondered where such an unusual name came from. And the area is totally correct too
Yes the family are gypsies, are there any marriages for any Kidds?
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 19:44 GMT (UK)
There were 9 children from the marrige of Pru and Robert
Thanks Anna
 :-*
Title: Re: Marriage of Robert Kidd
Post by: rocking robin on Tuesday 10 March 09 19:46 GMT (UK)
Lucky break too, census 1911 shows Prudys aunt on her mothers side visiting too so another lead to follow!!