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Title: kellahin
Post by: welshgirl on Monday 09 March 09 23:31 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know of a kellahin family living in the kilmarnock area 1850/1900?
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 09 March 09 23:41 GMT (UK)
1851 for Irvine shows a Robert Kellahin b 1828 Kilmarnock and wife Mary b 1833 Irvine.  They had a daughter Mary Dickie Kellahin (indexed Killahin) aged 8 months b Irvine

Also in the household was Mary Alexander 58 mother in law b Dreghorn Ayrshire and William Alexander 12 brother in law b Irvine
Irvine; ED: 3; Page:  8; Line: 38
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: welshgirl on Monday 09 March 09 23:49 GMT (UK)
Sorry for the vagueness of my first request!  The Kellahin family I am interested in, appear in the 1861 Census.  There are two Lillias Kellihans listed, is it possible for someone to look up what the relationship is between the two?
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 09 March 09 23:56 GMT (UK)
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The Kellahin family I am interested in, appear in the 1861 Census

9 Braeside Kilmarnock

Robert Kellahin 77  b Ireland
Lillias  30  daughter b Kilmarnock
Lillias   11  g/dtr       ditto
Kilmarnock; ED: 16; Page:  16; Line: 18
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: daval57 on Tuesday 10 March 09 05:45 GMT (UK)
Not sure whether these are connected but posting in case. 
I've not tried to analyse any of them. 
I'm only posting briefest of detail because I'm very lazy!
All have Kilmarnock / Ayrshire connection.  Some Irish births.
Can look again if any mean anything to you.
There are other spelling variations too, eg, Kellahon, Kellochan
This is not an exhaustive list.
1891 may be of particular interest.
Dave


I'll go back in and amend this post - I've mixed up years.
sorted

1901

Address:    John Finnie St Drell Hall

ED:    26
Household schedule number:    95
Line:    5

Patrick Keleghan    42
Ellen Keleghan    38
Winfred Keleghan    18
Mary Ellen Keleghan    13
Catherine Lousia Keleghan    11
Edward Keleghan    9
Earnest Walter Keleghan    6



1891  1901


Address:    12 Boyd St

ED:    2
Household schedule number:    242
Line:    21

Robt Neil    32
Lilly Neil    53
Joseph Neil    26
Helen Neil    22
Jas Neil    13
Lilly Kellahin    76  Aunt



1891


Address:    1 Cotton Row. Irvine

ED:    4
Household schedule number:    123
Line:    7

John Kellachin    86
Maria Kellachin    63




ED:    Cunningham Combination Poorhouse
Household schedule number:    1
Line:    8

Wm Kellahin    67


Margt Kellahin    67


   



1881



Address:    7 Kirk Vennel, Irvine

ED:    3
Household schedule number:    49
Line:    23

John Kellachan    75
Maria Kellachan    49




Address:    29 Calder St, Blantyre

ED:    5
Household schedule number:    173
Line:    10

Joseph Kellochan    34
Mary Kellochan    30
Daniel Kellochan    5
Patrick Kellochan    3
Roseann Kellochan    1
Agnes Kellochan    7 Mo



Address:    47 Strand Street, Kilmarnock

ED:    24
Household schedule number:    141
Line:    18
Roll:    cssct1881_190

William Kellachan    57
Margaret Kellachan    57




Address:    1 Jacksons Close, Edinburgh

Robert Ferguson    32
Mary Ferguson    37
William Kellahn    77
David Kellahn    7
Robert Ferguson    6 m


1871


Address:    36 Low Glencairn, Kilmarnock
ED:    24
Household schedule number:    258

David Kellighan    36
Agnes Kellighan    34
John Kellighan    15
Joseph Kellighan    14
Elizabeth Kellighan    12
James Kellighan    5
Catherine Kellighan    4
Agnes Kellighan    1



1861


Address:    9 Braeside, Kilmarnock

ED:    16
Household schedule number:    94
Line:    14

John Kellahin    57
Margaret Kellahin    41

(this is not the one Carole quoted - same address though)


20 College Wynd, Kilmarnock

ED:    12
Household schedule number:    122
Line:    1

Mary Kellahin    50
Thomas Kellahin    35
Mille Kellahin    30





1851

(mentioned by Carole)


West Back Road, Kilmarnock

ED:    3
Page:    38 .
Household schedule number:    169
Line:    4
   
Robert Kellahin    23  (I love this occupation - Stakiner Purter ( Borkseller)
Mary Kellahin    18
Mary Dickie Killahin    8 Mo
Mary Alexander    58




1841

Fore Street, Kilmarnock

Parish Number:    597

John Kellachan    35
Robert Kellachan    14
   
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: welshgirl on Tuesday 10 March 09 21:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks for taking the time to look up all these names.

The 1891 Census taken at Boyd Street is the exact family I'm interested in.



Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: jonn on Tuesday 10 March 09 21:31 GMT (UK)

Hello Welshgirl,

Were you the person who was looking for Robert Neil, and Lillias. I dont know if you got their marriage 24/April/1868. Kilmarnock, Ayr.

Also did you know her name on the marriage was Lilly Kellahin Mahalm.

Regards,
Jonn.
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: daval57 on Tuesday 10 March 09 21:36 GMT (UK)
OK

I've misinformed you.  What I have quoted as 1891 was actually 1901 census.
Hope I didn't confuse you.

full details of occupations / place of birth in 1901



Address:    12 Boyd St

ED:    2
Household schedule number:    242
Line:    21

Robt Neil    32 loco engine driver St Quivox, Ayrshire
Lilly Neil    53 wife Kilmarnock
Joseph Neil    26 blacksmith Kilmarnock
Helen Neil    22 woolwinder Riccarton Ayrshire
Jas Neil    13 scholar Kilmarnock
Lilly Kellahin    76  Aunt formerly hand sewer Kilmarnock

Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: jonn on Tuesday 10 March 09 22:08 GMT (UK)

Hello Welshgirl,

The name Lilly Kellahin Mahalm, i think is a bad version of Mulholland, or Lilly could not read or write.

Her parents i think were Joseph Mulholland, and Ellen Kellahin/Killochan, who were married 31/March/1848.

This Ellen, is the sister of Lilly/Lillias Kellahin, on the 1901. census provided by Daval.

Regards,
Jonn.
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: welshgirl on Wednesday 11 March 09 23:02 GMT (UK)
In the 1861 Census the granddaughter Lilly has the surname Kellahin, I am wondering at what age she became known as Mullholland. 

I understand her father was Joseph Mulholland but why wasn't she using that surname at the age of 11?  Her parents seem to have married the same year as she was born.  Maybe her surname on the birth certificate was that of the mother's (Ellen) and it seems she didn't use the surname of her father until much later.

Where can I find a birth record for her?

Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: daval57 on Thursday 12 March 09 00:06 GMT (UK)
I've tried umpteen searches of the census records using different variations.
No joy.
I can't get my head round this one at all welshgirl.

I'm giving up now.  Sorry.

Having said that, if you want a specific lookup, just ask.  Happy to try and help.

Dave
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: welshgirl on Thursday 12 March 09 00:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking Dave!


Welshgirl
Title: Re: kellahin
Post by: jonn on Thursday 12 March 09 09:41 GMT (UK)

Hello Welshgirl,

I take it you have not seen Robert Neil, and Lillias's, marriage certificate 1868. Kilmarnock, this would confirm who her parents were, you can purchase this certificate for a small sum on Scotlandspeople.

On the 1851. census Kilmarnock, Ayr. you have the Kellahin, family. this is only a index not the full census.

Kellahin Robert, 67 years,
Kellahin Mary, 67 years,
Kellahin John, age 48 years,
Kellahin Lily, age 24 years,
Reid Elizabeth, age 14 years,
Mahalam Liley, age 4 years.

This index was transcribed by the East Ayrshire, FHS. by volunteers so the details may not be 100% correct, ie ages, etc.

I have checked the index on Scotlandspeople, and Mahalam Liley, age 4 years is correct.

Its quite possible Liley, was born prior to her mother Ellen's, marriage to Joseph Mulholland, and thats why her surname is Mahalam.

So getting the marriage certificate will clarify the names.

Remember also its Irish, folks we are discussing here and there will be lots of variations on names.

Regards,
Jonn.