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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northumberland => England => Northumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: richardehope on Monday 09 March 09 20:16 GMT (UK)
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Looking for George Hindmarsh born about 1832 in 1851 and 1861 census. He was married to Mary and was a coal miner living in or around Bedlington Northumberland England
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Hi
Could this be the family:
1861 RG9 Piece 3873 Folio 8 Page 9
39 Bedlington Colliery, Northumberland
HINDMARSH
George head 28 Coal Miner Netherton, Northumberland
Mary wife 25
Mary Ann dau 7
Wm John son 5
Jane dau 2
Stephen son 7months
all but George born Bedlington
Barbara :)
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I'm not sure which is George in the 1851 census.
Do you have his marriage cert showing father's name and occupation?
Barbara
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No but his father was William born abt 1790 and mother Ann and they would have been living around the Bedlington/ Seghill/Blyth area
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May I ask how you know his parents' names? If from the IGI, you still need his marriage cert to be sure that's the right baptism. If it's the baptism in Shilbottle, 1833 with parents William and Ann, Shilbottle is abt 15 miles from where George says he was born (Netherton on 1861 census)
There's also a member-submitted entry (not from parish records) on the IGI for a George Davison Hindmarsh bapt abt 1832 Bedlington, but no further information
Very difficult to pinpoint them, as I can't see a George with parents in 1851, nor with a William and Ann in 1841 in that area
Barbara
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There is a William and Ann, William born Alwinton, about 3 miles from Netherton: edited - another Netherton further north!
1851 census HO107 Piece 2413 Folio 71 Pages 6/7
Birney Hill, New Cottages, High Callerton, Northumberland
HINDMARCH
William head m 60 Ag Lab N'land Alwinton
A wife m 56 " wife " Little Benton
W son s 33 Ag Lab " Kirkwhelpington
M dau s 31 At home " "
J son s 24 Ag Lab " Hartburn
W " s 22 " " "
Ann dau s 19 Occasionally Ag Lab, at home N'land Sheckington
Barbara
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Same family in 1841, but no George:
1841 HO107 Piece 839 Book 2 Folio 1 Page 12
New Deanham, Rothbury, Northumberland
HINDMARSH
William 50 Ag Lab
Ann 45
Margret 20
William 20
Walter 12
Ann 10
Thomas 8
all born Northumberland
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I see George has died by 1871 and Mary remarried, so no further information on his birthplace.
Marriage cert seems the only way really, for his father's name and occupation
Kind regards
Barbara
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Hi all,
I think there might be some confusion about which Netherton George was born in, Barbara.
Nedderton Village alongside Netherton Colliery is a stone's throw from Bedlington. The confusion can be caused by the fact that a lot of locals used to pronounce 'dd' as 'th'. As an example my mother in law always said Withrington instead of Widdrington.
I would look closer to Bedlington
Christine
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Hi Christine
No I'm not confused (well no more than usual) :)
Without more detail from Richard, it's impossible to know which, there is only the 1861 Netherton birthplace to go on. I did assume George was born at the one near Bedlington, but as I said, that is 15 or so miles from Shilbottle - the baptism location for the George Hindmarch on the IGI with parents William and Ann, so waiting for confirmation of where Richard got the parents' information from before going any further.
I would look closer to Bedlington
I did spend quite some time looking, - there are a couple of possible Georges but not living at home, unless the parents are not William & Ann - again, confirmation needed from marriage cert really.
I was just looking at the possibility of the other Netherton (earlier post amended to make this clearer) when I saw that the only suitable William (with wife Ann) was born at Alwinton. There don't seem to be any William & Anns with son George in the Bedlington area, 1841/1851 - unless you can find them?
Barbara :)
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It is a puzzle why the '61 entry is so appropriate to the circumstances outlined by Richard and yet there is nothing to link up with it in '51. I've tried all manner of lateral thinking, as I'm sure you have, and still got nowhere. That's why I thought sticking to Bedlington with the info on 1861 would be the best start.
Christine
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Well I think the reason is that if Richard got the parents from the IGI baptism, it possibly isn't the right one. Will just wait for Richard's comments, and further details from certificates etc. as one census entry isn't enough to go on in this case, I'm afraid.
Barbara