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Title: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: stannarp on Monday 09 March 09 19:29 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Just want to check something with other people - make sure that I'm reading this correctly, does this read Herts Neboth?

It is from Ref:  Class: RG10; Piece: 564; Folio: 11; Page: 16; GSU roll: 823316, the 1871 Census return for Lydia Cowlin (other returns put her as born Langley (Hitchin), Hertfordshire.

All translations appreciated!

Regards,

Patricia

Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: kerryb on Monday 09 March 09 19:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Patricia

I think you are right.  Need to check placenames in Herts.

Kerry
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 09 March 09 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hi,

A long shot this.......an abbreviated, mis-heard.......Knebworth.   :-\



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: kerryb on Monday 09 March 09 19:37 GMT (UK)
Nanny

I was just thinking that myself - abbreviated Knebworth.

Kerry
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 09 March 09 19:39 GMT (UK)
Knebworth is about 3 miles form Langley, probably just how the enumerator heard it  :D


Barbara
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: stannarp on Monday 09 March 09 19:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks guys

Yes, it could well be a misheard Knebworth - her other census returns list her as born Langley or Hitchin, which is within 5 miles (mind you 5 miles was a lot further in 1871 than it is now!!!) of Knebworth.  Certainly makes more sense than Neboth - I googled that and only came up with my own post about her marriage to John Richard Cowlin!

Thanks again, your 'local' knowledge of various counties certainly makes life easier for us!  ;D

Regards,

Patricia
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 09 March 09 19:49 GMT (UK)
Not always, Patricia,

what we often turn to is Genuki and its great gazetteer !!

http://www.genuki.org.uk/contents/


Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: stannarp on Monday 09 March 09 19:55 GMT (UK)
True, it is a useful resource...what I really meant was that this part of the UK is pretty 'foreign' to me though (actually, being South African, it all is pretty 'foreign' I suppose ;)  )

Most of my own family history research is in Somerset/Dorset/Wiltshire, and I'm not too bad with places there any more, with the help of a couple of parish-locator programs.  However, the places closer to London aren't too familiar to me (this is stuff I'm doing for my great-aunt), and I'm really battling with them, certainly don't know them enough to think aaaaah, that sounds as if it COULD be ...!

Thanks again!

Patricia
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 09 March 09 20:14 GMT (UK)
Have you used the 'nearby places' at the top of a page when you are looking at a place on genuki?

It usually shows you places within 5 miles, but you can alter that to whatever distance you wish.  In this instance, entering Langley and then clicking on 'nearby places' brings up Knebworth, of course, local knowledge in knowing that it starts with a k helps, but another tip would be to then use your 'find on this page' and entering 'neb' would have found it too.

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: stannarp on Monday 09 March 09 20:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara,

To be honest, no, I use 2 programs, both freeware and called "Parish Locator" which I've always found very useful (as I don't always connect to the internet).  Did try to look parishes within 5 miles of Hitchin on both (a distance which always seems realistic to me), but according to my program, Knebworth is within 10 (abt 7.5)...just goes to show that sometimes databases aren't as accurate as we like to think they are!  ???

Thanks again for the help...

Regards,

Patricia
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: Jlcf on Sunday 23 October 11 10:57 BST (UK)
Hello Patricia
Hertfordshire this is it obviously no ?
May be this is too late, but Neboth is also a family name.
It could be written as Nebout, Nebbout and related to jewsih genealogy.
Nom de Tribu: Nabitz origine berbère qui viendrait du nom de différentes tribus du département de Constantine en Algérie   Autres orthographes :Nabet ,Nabets, Nabit , Nebout , Neboth
They came originally from south of France, and they are quite numerous ..... ::)

Quite no simple, I 'm myself looking for Gibraltar in the year 1800 and I 'am totally lost...
Good luck.
Laura  from France
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: Nick29 on Sunday 23 October 11 12:46 BST (UK)
It's perfectly possible that the locals called the place 'Kneb'oth' and someone wrote it as Neboth.
Title: Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
Post by: Herts Heart on Sunday 23 October 11 22:13 BST (UK)
Lydia Parker? Born Herts?

Same village as the Herts "Robin Hood" called "Jack O'legs"?


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