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Title: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: JacquiY on Tuesday 15 February 05 19:12 GMT (UK)
Hi, I've recently traced one of my ancestors back to Gloucester, namely, William TINGLE born c1828, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire (info from the 1871 census).  Can anyone give me some information about this area.
Would anyone know how I would go about trying to find out exactly where he was born.   I would like to post a request for an 1841 lookup but realise it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack without this information.
Cheers
Jax
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Darcy on Wednesday 16 February 05 07:21 GMT (UK)
Jax,

if you are sure that William was born in The Forest of Dean then the IGI entry which I mentioned on your other thread is a real possibilty. It's the only entry for around 1828.


                               William Tingle

           Christening   4th May 1828    Little Dean  Gloucestershire

           Father  William Tingle

           Mother  Hannah

I hope I didn't confuse you asking you to look at Staffs.

Darcy
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Darcy on Wednesday 16 February 05 07:38 GMT (UK)


Jax,

here are the siblings of the above William. Any of these names ring a bell?

Thomas Tingle 1825
Diana Tingle 1831
Isaac Tingle 1833
George Tingle 1835

 All Christened at Little Dean Glos. Unfortunately all born before registration.

Darcy
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 16 February 05 09:03 GMT (UK)
If you go here:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/GLSontheweb.htm

you'll find lots of Tingles in EastDean51

There is also a William Tingle 23 in Kingsholm51, allegedly born in Gloucester City with a wife.
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: JacquiY on Wednesday 16 February 05 12:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Geoff, thanks for taking the time to reply to my posting.  I will defintely check out the link you provided when I get home tonight!  Using works computer at the moment!!! :)  It may be a stupid question but... what does the "51" mean after the place names?  Thanks Jax
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 16 February 05 12:55 GMT (UK)
what does the "51" mean after the place names? 

Most of the entries in the index are for 1851 census but there are some entries (a few) for other censuses.
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Darcy on Wednesday 16 February 05 13:12 GMT (UK)
Jax, :)

I checked Little Dean on the 1841 in the hope of finding the William Tingle who appears on the IGI for May 1828.

Unfortunately there are no Tingles at all in the area.

Darcy
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Darcy on Thursday 17 February 05 08:02 GMT (UK)
Jax,
I am not quite sure where we are going with this ;D ;D but, for what it's worth, I have found the Tingle family from the IGI in East Dean in 1851.



MATTHEWS William Lodger Widow/er 44 East Dean 
William Lodger 14 Short Standing
TINGLE Dinah  Servant 20 East Dean 



TINGLE Thomas 45 unmarried Coal Miner East Dean 
William 23 Coal Miner Brother East Dean 
Geo Brother 15 Coal Miner East Dean 
BENNETT Benjamin Visitor 22 Farmers son East Dean 
ROLAND Mary Visitor Married 25 Dressmaker Derbyshire Peters

The age for Thomas has to be wrongly transcribed - he has aged 20 years! - Diana has become Dinah.


Nothing is proved yet - but - I am going to search East Dean on the 1861. If I find this William we will know he is not yours  - cos your William is in Staffs then!

I'll be back!

Darcy



Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Thursday 17 February 05 08:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Jax,

I noticed that your first question got overlooked --

(mention a name or date here on RootsChat, and everybody gets on the trail : who ? where ?)

-- but you were also asking for info. about the Forest of Dean.

Check out this thread aswell: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,15555.msg124160.html#msg124160
where I gave a link to a site with a history of the Forest of Dean

Hope it will be of interest.
Bob
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: JacquiY on Thursday 17 February 05 12:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Bob
Thanks for the info.  I've had a little look (during my lunch half an hour!!) - it's just the sort of thing I was looking for.  I plan to have a longer look tonight at home. I think that researching where your ancestors is from is an important part of genealogy - then it becomes more personal and not just a list of names and dates of "hatches, matches & despatches"!   ;D
Cheers,
Jax
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Darcy on Thursday 17 February 05 13:00 GMT (UK)
Jax,

I checked the 1861 census for East Dean for the family who could possibly belong to your William Tingle. I found only George Tingle, still a coal miner and living in lodgings.

On the 1881 census I found Thomas Tingle, also still a coal miner, living in Yorkshire. He gives his place of birth as Cinderford ( Forest of Dean)
 
I found Diana Tingle on the 1881 census, married name Smith, still living in East Dean and gives her place of birth as Cinderford which is why I couldn't find them in Little Dean on the 1841. I don't have the 1841 for Cinderford.

Isaac Tingle does not appear on the census.

As the children were without their parents on the 1851 census I checked FreeBMD and found a death for Hannah Tingle in 1838 and William Tingle in 1850.

As you know where William was at the time of the 1861 census I think you should post on the Staffs board and try to get a lookup. Hopefully, this time he will give his place of birth as Cinderford, not just Forest of Dean, and provide the evidence that links him to this family. ;D

Good Hunting
Darcy ;)
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: JacquiY on Thursday 17 February 05 20:31 GMT (UK)
Darcy,
You've been a marvellous help!  I'll let you know how I get on.
Cheers
Jax
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: Darcy on Thursday 17 February 05 20:55 GMT (UK)
Jax, ;D

do let me know if you find William on the 1861.

I should have mentioned that your William is the only match on the 1881 for the Cinderford family.

The Tingles, in East Dean, are all miners. I found a Joseph Tingle who was the manager at the pit!

Your William is a coal merchant in Staffs. I believe he belongs to the Cinderford family.

Darcy :)
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: lisacmitch98 on Wednesday 23 March 05 20:27 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have just come back from the FoD.  And whilst looking around the cemeteries, there are a lot of Tingles there.  Well worth a visit to the Forest as I think you could probably get a lot of information.

Lisa
Title: Re: FOREST OF DEAN
Post by: rutti tutti on Friday 20 May 05 20:36 BST (UK)
Here he is in 1861:
Emila Tingle b Broughton, Leicestershire, aged 24
William Tingle b Littleton, Gloucestershire, aged 33 aminer
William Tingle  b Knutton, Staffordshire, son aged2
RG9/1933
Stoke Upon Trent 
Hanley 
fol no:   21 

In 1841 there are 2 William Tingles - one aged 13 on Turners farm, Ruarden, Mother Maria and sister Mary aged 11
 the other aged  12 father Thomas Tingle,40  mother Susannah, 33 siblings mary 14 george 10 Anne 6 and Tom 4. They were at Upper Bilston, Forest of Dean. father was an engineer
Hope this helps a little.
Ruth