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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: pentire on Thursday 05 March 09 15:51 GMT (UK)
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Anyone carrying out current research on any of the above families ? It can get quite lonely sometimes !! :)
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Extract from Basil Greenhill 'The Merchant Schooners' regarding Appledore
.....industry of building small wooden ships.... had grown to such a great size by the late 19th century that ... various yards at Barnstaple, Appledore and Bideford were said to be launching a ship a week between them....The greatest of the Bideford Shipbuilders was .... Chaoman of Cleave Houses, ...ceased 1818 .....but ships survived to 1880s ..... and then George,... John Cox, HM Restarick, Hansen & Co, M.W. BLACKMORE & Sons today.
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ISBN 7153 4243 6
Pub David & Charles 1968
Out of Print
Vols I & II
Maybe available in your local library
Basil Greenhill
The Merchant Schooners
Lots of info about the Appledore Schooners
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In one twig of my tree, Ruth Cock (sort of long ago cousin) married John Popham in 1848. They went on to have lots of little Pophams - but the family were based in St. Giles in the Wood, so may not be any connection to yours.
Happy hunting
Sami
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Hi Cheshiremog - thanks for that info. I am not sufficiently well versed in the Blackmore branch to know whether there is a close relationship with the shipbuilders of that name.
I have however noticed that it could be possible to purchase Vols 1 and 2 of the books that you mentioned, and I might well consider doing so, particularly as at least five generations of the Day family are shown as master mariners.
Thank you very much for the lead - I can't think that I would have found that without your intevention.
Chris.
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Hi SamiW - Nice to hear from you. The Pophams married into our Hayne line during the 1850's, but where they were before that I don't know - I'll have a hunt round.
The William Popham who married into our Hayne line married one sister, and then married her younger sister (not at the same time !)
I have picked up the surname Cock in Appledore, so I'll have a little rummage and see what I come up with.
Chris
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Dear Pentire
Basil Greenhills books are a very good buy - they explain the process of building schooners in some fascinating detail. Appledore is mentioned many times so they give a good insight into how they were building and trading and where they were sailing. Hope you can get copies as they are now out of print as far as I know. The Cock brothers are mentioned several times. "At Appledore in the North Devon in the year 1903 a three masted schooner was being built by the Cock brothers in the Bell Inn yard..............the Katie was first conceived as a ship in the mind of James Cock, manager of the yard, who fulfilled also the function of 'moulder' as he was called in Appledore.'
The chapter is entitled 'The Mould Loft' it goes on to explain how James Cock made a half model of the vessel ....
Hope you manage to get the books - my interest was the Vittery family of Brixham, South Devon and I was not disappointed.
Mog
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Hi Mog - thanks for the further note. I have found the books being offered second hand on Amazon - as you rightly say they are now out of print.
Our Thomas Day (born 1781) married Eleanor Jones from Oxwich, West Glamorgan in 1808, so it doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to work out where his trading route probably took him !!
Chris.
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Hi Chris & Mog
I've not found any connection with my St.Giles in the Wood Cock family with the Appledore lot - though I'm sure there must be a link - it's a fairly unusual name!
Happy hunting
Sami
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Hi Sami - just happened to be online when your message came through. Although there is no great distance in modern terms between St. Giles and Bideford/Appledore, it might just as well have been on the other side of the moon in those days!
There are some fabulous web pages on the Genuki site relating to Appledore and the family name Cock, so I'll have a search and see what comes up ! ( no pun intended).
Chris
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Yes I have been researching my Popham families from Appledore quite a few years. My ancestor was Henry Popham, master mariner born 1803. My earlies direct ancestor is Henry born 1625 in Abbotsham. Will be glad to swap information with you
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Hi Pentire,
I have 2 seperate Blackmore families in my tree.
1) Agnes Blackmore 1809 d/o Robert Blackmore and Betty Fry out of Kentisbury
2) Eliza Blackmore 1842 d/o Thomas Blackmore and Elizabeth Rice out of Burrington
If we join up would love to share.
Spark
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Hi
I know your post is a few years old but thought I would respond.
I am researching my BLACKMORE family from Northam/Appledore.
I have William Berry BLACKMORE b 1808? married Ann CHANNON b 1809 & they had children - Lewis(Louis) b 1836,William b 1837, James b 1841, Philip Henry b 1842 d 1843. I have had difficulty finding these children's births in Devon but they appear on later Censuses!
The family moved to South Wales around 1845-8.
Is this of any use?
John
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Hi JPB,
I am also researching the Blackmores of Appledore/Northam and also of Bideford. Would be willing to exchange information.
Dave
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Hi
Just back from holiday. Would like to exchange information.
Contact on johnblakemore@ntlworld.com
John
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Hello DBH 776,
Do you want to exchange information at johnblakemore@ntlworld.com?