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Title: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: alisonlbutler on Wednesday 04 March 09 10:35 GMT (UK)
Anyone researching Goldsmith?

Here are the details I have

1 - Jeremiah Goldsmith born 18/03/18089 in Melton Suffolk (son of Thomas below (2))
Wife Sarah Ann Glanfield (Glanfields?) born 1812 Boulge, Suffolk

2 - Thomas Goldsmith born 08/03/1775 Norton, Suffolk (son of george below (3))
Wife Elizabeth

3 - George Goldsmith born 15/04/1753 Suffolk (son of George below (4))
Wife Mary

4 - George Goldsmith born 1735 Suffolk
Wife Elizabeth



Any info greatly appreciated!

Alison
Title: Re: Goldsmith
Post by: coombs on Thursday 05 March 09 11:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Alison

The Glanfield surname is interesting as I am researching that surname in the Hacheston/Parham/Bredfield areas. My interest is a Sarah Glanfield who wed in 1781 to Francis Frost in Parham. I cannot seem to locate a relevant baptism for her.

Ben
Title: Re: Goldsmith
Post by: alisonlbutler on Thursday 05 March 09 13:46 GMT (UK)
Ben,

In regards to your Sarah Glanfield, have you tried the below website?
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

I put in Sarah Glanfield born 1763 (just a guess from the date she got married 1781- 18 (years old))
+/- 5 years and it comes up with quite a few results and I wasn't sure if any where the correct ones

I am having the same trouble trying to find birth records for my Sarah who was born in Boulge abt 1812 but I can't find here parents!!

Let me know

Alison,
Title: Re: Goldsmith
Post by: coombs on Thursday 05 March 09 14:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Alison

In the 1861 census there is a John Glanfield born in 1814 in Boulge, Suffolk with wife Sarah. I wonder if he is a brother of your Sarah Glanfield born in about 1812?

Boulge is just outside Bredfield. Not too far from where my Glanfield's came from. Boulge is not yet indexed on the IGI website according to their Hugh Wallis list.

Ben
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH Family
Post by: alisonlbutler on Thursday 05 March 09 15:10 GMT (UK)
Ben,

I have a feeling you maybe right about John being Sarah's brother. I think also my Glanfield's and yours must be related somewhere!! I had a look on familysearch.org for John but couldn't find him either, both he and Sarah don't seem to exist in terms on births and christenings!!
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: Rick on Thursday 05 March 09 15:29 GMT (UK)

I am having the same trouble trying to find birth records for my Sarah who was born in Boulge abt 1812 but I can't find here parents!!

Let me know

Alison,


Hi Alison

Birth dates weren't generally recorded in parish records though occasionally a helpful incumbent would add the birth date to the baptismal entry.  The complete Boulge St Michael Parish Records 1621 - 1900 are available on microfiche from The Suffolk Record Office.  If you do not own a fiche reader, you should be able to use one at your local library.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,129613.0.html

Rick :)
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: coombs on Thursday 05 March 09 20:41 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have noticed that some Suffolk baptisms show the mothers maiden name. Hacheston and Parham did for several decades in the 1700s and 1800s as luckily many of my Suffolk ancestors came from there.

It is only big city baptism church registers that give a date of birth more as opposed to rural parishes.

Ben
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: Rick on Friday 06 March 09 14:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Ben

I have noticed that some Suffolk baptisms show the mothers maiden name.

Prior to 1813 entries were just written into a register with usually blank pages.  The amount of information given varied very much according to the incumbent.  After 1813 pre-preprinted registers were used which had spaces for the "Abode" and "Occupation" of the father but not for the maiden name of the mother.  However, many clergy did include maiden names in their entries pre and post 1813.

It is only big city baptism church registers that give a date of birth more as opposed to rural parishes.

Again this varied.  I own several copies of original parish registers and within just one of these parishes whether or not the birthdate was given varies from decade to decade because of a change of clergy. 

Rick :)


Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: findem on Saturday 07 March 09 01:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Ben,

Thought I'd throw in my twopenneth, hope you don't mind.

I have searched in many Essex PRs and have found, like Rick, that whether or not the date of birth is shown is purely down to the current incumbent's whim, size of the parish didn't seem to be a factor because I found dates of birth in some very small Essex villages.  I even found in one village a family group with dates of birth but no accompanying baptism dates, mind you it was a "catch up" situation because the previous incumbent failed to record their baptisms.  ;D

Regards,
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: jbailey on Sunday 05 April 09 10:32 BST (UK)
hello  alison i have a strong feeling that i am related to you,is your mother linda and your father john?.i think your mother is my cousin

i am john ernest goldsmith bailey my brother is roger frank goldsmith bailey .percy james was my late uncle.     
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: bille on Thursday 07 May 09 08:22 BST (UK)
Hello  :)

Just to add to the replies, my 4x G Grandmother was
Mary Goldsmith b? Saxtead Suffolk
marr to William Day
can anyone help  as I can't find out ant more info than that.
I do know they had a daughter [
b]Bethsheba Day [/b] born abt 1789 also Saxtead

Billie  :)
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: cookabbott on Thursday 13 August 09 02:44 BST (UK)
I am researching a Sarah Ann (Cook) Glanfield (born 1812 in Ipswich) who married Thomas Abbott (b 1802ish) iin 1833.
Children included Edmund, Thomas, sarah Ann, Abraham etc.

Any connection?

I have no further detail re Glanfields but have traced Abbott side well
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: PER on Thursday 22 October 09 21:58 BST (UK)
Hi All,

I think I have just found a Gladfield link to my very mysterious 4x Great Grandmother. She was Wilhelmina Mary Ann Snow, she married Robert Dyer in 1801 St George Hanove Sq, Robert died in 1843 and it appears she married a John Glanfield in Mar  Qtr 1844 Wandsworth district and died in Jun Qtr 1855 in Marylebone district. Do any of you happen to have this couple in your tree's?

Thanks

Paula
Title: Re: GOLDSMITH/GLANFIELD Families
Post by: Darwin88 on Sunday 25 June 23 01:20 BST (UK)
I have recently started researching the Neville-Goldsmith side of my family and have come across these old postings re: Goldsmith/Glanfield families.  Was anyone able to find the connection?
I have an Edward Adams Neville married Hannah Ann Goldsmith on 3 Sept 1866 in Epping, they later resided at 61 Maynard Road, Walthamstow Essex, died 1910 and 1914 in Essex.  Hannah's father is listed on the marriage certificate as Jeremiah Goldsmith, gardener. Census records show Hannah was born in Melton, Suffolk born about 1850.