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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Montgomeryshire => Topic started by: Welsh Cockney on Monday 02 March 09 16:11 GMT (UK)
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seeking any information on Joseph Probert b. Chirbury Shropshire and wife Annie Preeceb. unknown married 1888 at Atcham, Mont/Shropshire
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The marraige cert would give you both their father's names and occupations, and so lead you to the next steps. Also maybe an age for them, occupation, and addresses.
John Probert marriage
Atcham ref 6a 1295
Oct/Nov/Dec 1888
no Ann Preece transcribed.
Are you sure this is right marriage? (Only one bride n groom transcribed)
modified later : this is all wrong, I was looking for John instead of Joseph! silly me
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Thanks lizdb,
But thats all I have on them,I cant even find when or were she was born.
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Further to last message,
i note that Joseph was born 1866 in Chirbury, Shropshire
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Where is that info coming from? You must have them somewhere to have been led to that possible marriage...
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Are you sure the John Probert bn 1866 lives to adulthood?
There is the death of a 3 yr old John Probert in Weobley herefordshire reg district in Ap/May/Jun 1869
modified later: ignore all this, I was still looking for wrong name
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Its JOSEPH PROBERT,and i know he was born in Chirbury, Shropshire b.1866,son of Thomas Probert and Mary Hammond(m. 28th April 1853 at Lucton,Hereford, Eng.)He was on of six children,his sister Sarah was my grandmother.One distant relative gave me the JosephProbert and Annie Preece details .but had no more.
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I am SO SO SO SO SORRY, Welsh Cockney
Where on earth did I get John from? very senior moment there.
so - the right marriage is :
AP/MAy/Jun 1888
Atcham 6a 1225
JOSEPH Probert
and yes, there is an Ann Preece on the same page!
Getting the cert will give their fathers.
But I am not suree xactly what you are wanting or what you already have. You said you have nothing at first - but now you have his parents, date and place of birth, number of siblings, name of one sibling, exact dat of marriage (implying you have marriage cert, or someone has)...
Have you looked for him on 1881 census for example?
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Here he is in 1871 - with his sister sarah your grandmother there too.
Rg10 5621 12 11 (indexed Robert)
Winsbury Chirbury
Thomas Probert 39 Ag LAb bn Montgomery
Mary 43 bn Radnorshire Lingin?
James 9 bn Chirbury
Margaret 7 bn C
Joseph 5 bn C
Sarah 3 bn C
William 9 mths bn C
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This is getting very hard
I am trying to find out what happened to both Joseph & Annie after their wedding in1888, I have been unable to find any details on Annie Preece what so ever,ie date of birth ,where etc.
I have checked the 1901 census and can find no trace of either of them,but was hoping someone might know of them and what happen to them.
Thats it in a nutshell.
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Hi, wondered if anyone ever found out further info on Joseph? Annie is my GG Grandmother. She ended up in Shrewsbury and started a new family. I can not find out why they split, i know that she and my GG Grandfather never married (pretended they were). Joseph seems to just disappear off the face of the earth? cheers Tammy
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Joseph and Annie's marriage:
Annie Preece
Joseph Probert
Marriage: 01 Apr 1888
Yockleton Shropshire
When was the last sighting of them together?
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Hi, yes I have the marriage certificate. I know they had a child together soon afterwards (Margaret Probert) born in Brigend Wales. which is where a few of the probert family moved to. However by 1892 Annie is back in shropshire having my great grandmother with another man (shocking behaviour)! So I know what she did next but don't know what happened to him. Can't find a death for him, and Annie and the new man never married, even though they stayed together till death and had another 3 kids. Sent off for Margaret's birth certificate so hopefully find out if her and joseph were together still when she was born.