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Title: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: Sylvie on Sunday 01 March 09 17:59 GMT (UK)
I am looking for ANNIE MURRAY who was born about 1869/70 in Islngton.  I can't find her birth details or her marriage details.
She married Albert Trebble some time before 1896.... the 1901 census found them living in Walthamstow, she was aged 32.
In the 1911 census she was aged 41.
I can't trace her any further back than this.
Please can anyone help?
Sylvie.
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: Magrat on Sunday 01 March 09 23:01 GMT (UK)
Do you know her father's name and/or occupation?

There is an Annie Murray in the 1871 census aged 2, the youngest of a large family the Father of which is John Murray - a bricklayer.

Census reference is RG10/292 folio 35 pg 64.

Annie is shown as being born in Islington and this family is living at Birch Place (Elder Walk), Islington.

Could this be her?

Magrat
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: wendy47 on Sunday 01 March 09 23:18 GMT (UK)


How about the following for her birth

Births Dec 1868
MURRAY    Anne    Islington    1b    256

Wendy

Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: wendy47 on Sunday 01 March 09 23:44 GMT (UK)
Could this be her? Trying to work out whose sister she is as it's a different name if she is Thomas's. I can't see her being Mary's Dau. Maybe grandaughter

1881 Census for 13 Baising Place Shoreditch

Name     Age
Mary Carney    68 Widow Mother b Lanfair Montgomeryshire
Thomas Carney 24 Son b Shoreditch Clerk Unm
Harriett Murray 26 Sister b Mile End Feather maker Unm
Laura Murray    24 Sister b Mile End Unm
Annie Murray 13 Sister b Islington

RG11; Piece: 386; Folio: 18; Page: 34;
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: wendy47 on Sunday 01 March 09 23:57 GMT (UK)
  1871 Census

Mary Carney widow 56 is in the same place as 1881 with Peter H Carney son 26 a leather cutter & John 16 a Warehouseman both b Shoreditch and unm but no Murrays.

wendy
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 02 March 09 00:10 GMT (UK)
I think the 1881 Census entry is at fault - the 3 sisters appear to be a separate household and think Harriet should have been shown at 'Head'.

Annette
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: wendy47 on Monday 02 March 09 07:39 GMT (UK)
Hi

I agree. Probably had a room in the same house.

The three of them are on the 1871 Census RG10/292 folio 35 pg 64 at Birch Place (Elder Walk), Islington that Magrat listed earlier.

John Murray     60 Bricklayer b Canterbury Kent
Amelia Murray    47 b Westminster
Mary Ann Murray 20 Feather Maker b Mile End
Harriett Murray 17 Feather Maker b Mile End
Laura Murray    14 Feather Maker b Highbury
Alfred Murray    12 Greengrocers Boy b Highbury
Daniel Murray    10 b Highbury
George Murray 8 b Highbury
Amelia Murray    6 b Highbury
Annie Murray 2 b Highbury


Wendy


Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: wendy47 on Monday 02 March 09 07:48 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage in 1849 but it appears too late if Edmund is b in wedlock.

Marriages Mar 1849 
Murray    John         St Geo Han Sq    1   29

There's a marriage, which could suitable, if they married each other, unless they possibly got married in Ireland.

Marriages Sep 1846   
Courti    Paul        Stepney    2   526    
Holland    Amelia Teresa         Stepney    2   526    
Horgin    Mary         Stepney    2   526    
Leary    Daniel         Stepney    2   526    
McGrath    Catherine         Stepney    2   526    
Moriarty    John         Stepney    2   526    
Murray    John         Stepney    2   526    
Shannon    Mary         Stepney    2   526

Wendy
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: wendy47 on Monday 02 March 09 08:04 GMT (UK)

I think this is John's second marriage - probably would have been a soldier serving in Ireland as Edmund was born there.

1861 Census 3 Goldsmith Place  Islington
John Murray     52 Chelsea Pensioner b Canterbury
Amelia Murray    34 b Westminster
Edmund Murray Son 15 Paper Hanger b Ireland
Maria Murray    12 b Stepney
Mary A Murray    10
Harriett Murray    7
Laura Murray    4
Alfred Murray    2
Daniel Murray    3 Mo
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 139; Folio: 69; Page: 78;

1851 Census for 6 Canal Road Mile End London
John Murray     40 Chelsea Pensioner b Canterbury
Amelia Murray    26 London
Edmund Murray 5 Dublin Ireland
Maria Murray    2 Stepney
Mary Ann Murray    4 Mo Stepney

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1553; Folio: 131; Page: 2; GSU roll: 174784-174785.

Wendy
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: wendy47 on Monday 02 March 09 08:27 GMT (UK)
 

I hope I have the correct family. I'm away for a week so good hunting

Wendy
Title: Re: Looking for Annie Murray - b. Islington
Post by: Sylvie on Monday 02 March 09 13:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone,  that's brilliant  :D :D
Sylvie.