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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: chiplassie on Sunday 01 March 09 00:22 GMT (UK)
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Hello;
I am hoping that someone may have McLeans in the Ballyalbanagh area of Antrim. I have a David McLean b 1835, father James. David married into the McGookin family from nearby Ballyboley.
CL
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Hi,
David McClean married Mary McGookan (sic) in Ballyeaston 1st Presbyterian Church on 24 Nov 1857.
Regards
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HI
I have a Samuel McClean a Carpenter from Ballyboley who married Elizabeth Jane Mayne from ballyboley on the 18 April 1888 in First Ballyeaston Presbyterian.
Samuels father was also Samuel McClean a farmer from Ballyboley. The two witnesses at the Marriage were John McClean and Elizabeth McClean.
Does any of these names mean anything to you.
I Have just checked the Baptismal records for First Ballyeaston Presbyterian and would this be David:
McCLEAN David Father:James Mother: May McQuillen Born: 1 Dec 1834 Ballyalbana
John
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Hi;
I have the 1857 Ballyeaston marriage thank you. I did need to check for the baptismal record though. I believe that would likely be David's baptism in 1834. I only knew of Samuel McLean in Griffith's Valuation. The other McLeans are interesting and certainly may tie in at some point as David and Mary's children were all born Ballyboley. Good to know there are other McLean/McClean researchers out there.
Thank you both for your assistance.
Best wishes,
CL :D
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Just in case you don’t have the following
Andree, Daniel and William Mclean Ballyeaston
David, Francis, John and Stafford Ballyalbangah
Heads of household 1813 Ballyeaston First Presbyterian
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Thank you Helenar. By the way, would that first name be Andrew?
CL
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Hi Chipladdie
Yes it should be Andrew.
The David from Ballyalbanagh had a son James who was 8 in 1813.
Here is the details:
David McLean 36 Weaver
Margaret wife 33
John 11
James 8
Francis 7
William 5
Hugh 4
David 4 months
There is a lot of David's in this family so it could be yours.
John
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Hi John;
Thank you. I think you are right about that. It looks like the 8 yr old son James might be mine from some other details I have been considering.
Great!! ;)
CL
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Hi John (jwaugh)
I was browsing through the will calendars at the PRONI site and discovered a Samuel McClean alternate name McLean, Farmer from Ballyeaston. He died Dec 12 1883, Ballyeaston. There were three executors. Two farmers and Annie McClean spinster Ballyeaston.
I realize this is not specifically Ballyboley, but thought it just may be your Samuel McClean sr.
Regards,
CL :)
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Hi John;
I realize from many of your other messages that you are fully informed as to PRONI research. I am in Canada and just learning about what is available. I apologize.
CL
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David McClean was my 2nd great grandfather. He apparently also had several siblings. The dates are baptisms and the location is Ballyeaston (probably First Ballyeaston Presbyterian)
Agnes 23 Dec 1826
John 2 Sep 1828
Francis 31 Aug 1830 (male)
Robert 29 Mar 1832
Margaret 15 Jan 1837
Mary Jane 17 May 1839
Catherine 20 Oct 1841
George 19 Jul 1844.
Susan 20 Feb 1847
Rosa 13 Jan 1850
William James 5 Jan 1853
Would like to hear more from you
Brian
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Hi there,
I'm related to May Macquillan and James McClean (my 3rd great grandfather).
Philip McLean
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Welcome to the group Philip. Have you tested your DNA? Briangr and I have corresponded since my earlier post and we have met several McLeans along the way.
Regards
CL
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Hi CL,
Yes I did the Ancestry DNA test.
Kind regards,
Philip McLean
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Hi again,
I can't get beyond David McLean born 1780 in Ireland and supposedly died in 1848 in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, USA.
I'm interested to know if my ancestors actually originated in Scotland - moved over to Ireland by the English?
Kind regards,
Philip McLean
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Hi,
I have been reading this post and I am aware of at least 4 McLean/McClean descendants with ancestors from Ballyalabnagh/Ballyeaston who have tested with Family Tree DNA.
I would suggest that if you don't already have results on FTDNA you upload your results from Ancestry - it is free and you usually get results within a few days at most.
If you don't know how to do the upload it is very simple. Instructions are here: https://www.nifhs.org/dna/uploading-your-dna/
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Philip,
I must have missed your last couple of messages. Good to hear more from you. I'll send you a PM as we are definitely the same family of McLeans.
Regards, CL
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I'm interested to know if my ancestors actually originated in Scotland - moved over to Ireland by the English?
Only an assumption will tell you that, no records go back far enough in Ireland to confirm a move from A to B. If they moved during the Ulster Plantation they chose too due to land offers or were already over with the army, rather than being forced across (think of land offers to settlers to an area in USA & Canada). If they came later after 1750 could have been a result of the Highland Clearances by individual aristocracy as many were in debt and removed the old crofts and evicted families to generate more income from the land. Scotland to Ireland was an easy move being so close.
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Y-DNA does exactly what you are looking for. If you have a male tester then you can test them and find out origins through a Big Y test. It will give you matches, dates of common ancestors with each match, notable connections, ancient connections, migration patterns and a long list of lineage defining mutations that can indeed reveal ancestral locations.
I have personally used Big Y tests a number of times to confirm origins and it provides links to Scotland for Northern Irish lines. I know one line originated in Loudon, Ayrshire, another in the western Hebrides (3 islands specifically) and one of my friends has recently discovered a confirmed link to a specific clan with a long lineage.
Many of my Y-DNA matches are in the 1600-1800 period which is exactly what you are looking for when you are trying to extend family trees backwards beyond the reach of autosomal DNA and paper records.
Y-DNA has come on a long way in the last few years. Big Y tests millions of popints in your DNA and the interpretation of the data is much improved and scientifically validated.