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Title: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Saturday 28 February 09 01:23 GMT (UK)
My grand father Michael Brennan was born in Parnell street in wexford.. His father was Nicholas Brennan, I do not know where he was born.. or his mother and fathers name..  but i know quite a bit about him.. He was a coast guard in Arklow and died in 1908.. but i know little about where he was born etc.. Nicholas Brennans wife was Catherine Moore.. Her mother and fathers names where Catherine Howlin and James Moore.. I have Catherine Moore baptism cert.. she was baptised in 1855 but does not say where just says wexford on the cert.. does not mention birth date or place... so i gather they all came from wexford... can anyone help me at all i have come up against a brick wall...
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 28 February 09 09:33 GMT (UK)
does the Wexford baptism cert you mentioned include the priest's name ?

if so I might be able to find out where he was based - many of the Commercial directories include local priests.



Shane
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Sunday 01 March 09 00:30 GMT (UK)
oh right thanks i will have a look and see .. thanks for that
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Sunday 01 March 09 00:31 GMT (UK)
where would i find a commercial directory what is it.. sorry for been so dim..
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 01 March 09 11:13 GMT (UK)
The Commercial directories usually list gentry, clergy, officials and business & trades people - like a modern yellow pages. Some of the later ones include farmers and general households.

I have Slaters Directories for 1846 and 1870 - a few years off the 1855 baptism, but the priest could still be included. If you post the name I'll have a look...



Shane
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Sunday 01 March 09 11:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much i will get the information later and send you text.. thanks again.. its very hard when you come up against that brick wall.. thanks
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Monday 02 March 09 20:16 GMT (UK)
the birth cert says i certify that catherine moore daughter of john moore and catherine howlin joined in lawful marriage was born on the 7th april 1855 and baptised according to the rites of the catholic church on the 8th april 1855 martin byrne and catherine mythen acting as sponsors appears in the wexford parochial register. and its then signed by Matthew Wicklamee.. or maybe matthew wicklance.. its difficult to read..
hope that helps and i would appreicate any information... thank you so much for looking for me...
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 03 March 09 09:10 GMT (UK)
no matches yet...

I wonder could the name be Wickham ?

I've seen a few of that name in trades around the county e.g. Taghmon, Wexford town.


Shane
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 03 March 09 11:18 GMT (UK)
these are the only Catholic priest names that I can see that look anything like 'Wicklamee' - neither are Matthew though ..

1870 - ROMAN CATHOLIC CHAPELS:

Dunlavin. .(Wicklow)
Rev James Whittle, parish priest; Rev Terence O'Reilly,curate

Gorey...
Rev James Lacy, P.P.: Rev Robert Sinnot and Rev. James Woddick, curates

it might be worth checking out for clues to the witnesses - I've seen post relating to the Mythen surname in Wexford that could be a clue..


Shane
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Tuesday 07 April 09 10:11 BST (UK)
i have found out from word of mouth that the catherine howlin john moore came from the Faythe in wexford and the michael brennan was born in parnell street in wexford in 1889... john moore and two sons were drowned off a fishing boat off wexford.. it anyone has information on anything to do with the moore howlin or brennans i would be very grateful..
also there is suppose to be a man called paddy o brien in our ladys island also related to this family ... just word of mouth no paper work...
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: Jack2227 on Tuesday 07 April 09 19:16 BST (UK)
(by kind permission of Noel Farrell)
From 'Enniscorthy Roots'; No ages given, on streets and names.

1901
Killagoley rural;
Howlin Thomas & Bridget; Mary, James, Patrick, Thomas, Margaret

Lusas's park;
Howlin John & Sarah; (caretaker)

St John's st; (75)
Howlin James & Annie; schoolmaster)
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Tuesday 07 April 09 19:44 BST (UK)
an older relation of mine told me that john moore and two of his sons were drowned at sea off a fishing boat off wexford.. now i do not know if there bodies were recovered or what..    any info anyone..
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: enfield on Tuesday 07 April 09 20:25 BST (UK)
3 Brennans, 1 Howlin, and 3 Moores from Wexford died in WW1.
 Regards.
 Tom
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Wednesday 08 April 09 10:22 BST (UK)
where did you find this out tom...  thanks for al lthe help because its aint easy to find out stuff about them.. thanks again
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: enfield on Wednesday 08 April 09 10:37 BST (UK)
Its from 'The Wexford War Dead' to be published later in the year.
BRENNAN, JAMES. Rank: Guardsman. Regiment or Service: Grenadier Guards. Unit; 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 04-February-1915. Service No: 8310. Born in New Ross, Co Wexford. Enlisted in Pontypridd. Killed in Action.
 From an article in the Enniscorthy Guardian; News has also reached a distant relative of this in the town that James Brennan, belonging to the Royal Field Artillery, and a native of New Ross, has also been killed in the trenches. The young man’s family left New Ross some years ago and he himself settled in Pontypridd, where on the outbreak of War, he joined the colours. Four Ross men have now lost their lives in the war. Grave or Memorial Reference: II. D. 20. Cemetery: Cuinchy Communal Cemetery in France.

BRENNAN, JAMES. Rank: Private. Regiment or Service: Royal Irish Regiment. Unit: 6th Bn. Age at Death: 21. Date of Death: 12-August-1916. Service No: 8029. Supplementary information; Son of John Brennan of The Faythe, Wexford and Mary Brennan ( stepmother ). Grave or Memorial Reference: Screen Wall. 03378. Cemetery: Nottingham General Cemetery UK.

BRENNAN, MYLES. Rank: Rifleman. Regiment or Service: Royal Irish Rifles. Unit; 1st Bn. Date of Death: 18-April-1917. Service No: 10314. Born in Wexford. Enlisted in Wexford. Died of Wounds.
 From an article in a Wexford newspaper; Rifleman Myles Brennan, Well Lane, Wexford, who has served in the Royal Irish Rifles on the Western Front since the outbreak of war, was killed in action on the 18th April, 1917, notification of his death has just been received in Wexford by his widow, Mrs Alice Brennan, with whom much sympathy is felt. Grave or Memorial Reference: A. 4. Cemetery: Heudicourt Communal Cemetery Extension in France.
HOWLIN, JAMES. Rank: Private. Regiment or Service: Royal Irish Regiment. Unit: 6th Bn. Age at Death: 39. Date of Death: 25-December-1915. Service No: 3/7509 and 7509. Born in St Mullins, Co Carlow. Enlisted in Ennisocrthy, Co Wexford. Died at Sea. Supplementary information; Son of Patrick and Stasia Howlin of Goolin, Co. Carlow; husband of Bridget Howlin of Grange, Rathnure, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford. Grave or Memorial Reference: C. 106. Cemetery: Alexandria ( Chatby ) Military and War Memorial Cemetery in Egypt.

Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: enfield on Wednesday 08 April 09 10:40 BST (UK)
and...
Image; 68

MOORE, JAMES. Rank: Pte/Lance Corporal. Regiment or Service: Royal Irish Regiment. Unit; 5th Bn. Date of Death: 17-October-1918. Service No: 10952. Formerly he was with the Royal Irish Rifles where his number was 10370. Born in Bride Street, Wexford. Enlisted in Wexford. Died of Wounds. From an article in a Wexford Newspaper; Brave brothers at the front. The two brave sons of Mrs, Moore, Well Lane (Selskar). ], Wexford, have undergone thrilling experiences in Flanders. They are both serving in the Royal Irish and have participated in many engagements in which the regiment figured conspicuously since the outbreak of the war…. Private William Moore Royal Irish Regiment was sent out with the first British Expeditionary Force when war was declared.
 His regiment was hurried to the support of the brave Belgians and participated in the memorable struggle at Mons. During the famous strategic retreat many of the gallant Royal Irish fell, but from the memory of the deeds performed by them on that occasion will not speedily be forgotten. Private William Moore was one of a party in charge of a Lieutenant which held the Germans at bay. Though opposed by overwhelming numbers, they stuck to their post till their task was received. Through force of numbers, they were cut off from the main body and only six men and the Lieutenant remained. They refused to give in, however, and fought till their ammunition agve out, when after a desperate struggle they were captured. They were hurried to a house several miles behind the German lines, but the little band succeeded in overpowering their captors and made good their escape. After enduring many privations the party regained the British lines.
 He fought with the remnants of the regiment up to May last, when he was sent home on sick leave. After a brief furlough he returned to Flanders and is again in the thick of the fray. Private James Moore, Royal Irish Regiment went on active service at the outbreak of war and, like his brother, took part in the many engagements in the Autumn and Winter seasons in which the Royal Irish won a glorious fame. At the battle of Ypres he was wounded in the right leg, and is at present home in Wexford on furlough recouperating. From an article in the People, 1915; Private James Moore, Selskar Street, Wexford, 2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Regiment, is in hospital suffering from a bullet wound in the right leg. Private Moore has been on active service in France since the outbreak of the war.
 He has another brother, William, also in the firing line. See William Moore below. Grave or Memorial Reference: I. B. 6. Cemetery: Roisel Communal Cemetery Extension in France.


MOORE, MATTHEW. Rank: Private. Regiment or Service: Royal Irish Regiment. Unit: 2nd Bn. Age at Death: 32. Date of Death: 19-October-1914. Service No: 7555. Born in Bree, Co Wexford. Enlisted in Wexford while living in Bree. Killed in Action. Supplementary information; Son of Laurance and Annie Moore ( nee Cullen ) of Bree, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford; husband of Mary Cogley ( formerly Moore ) of 4, "C" Block, The Barracks, Newbridge, Co. Kildare. Grave or Memorial Reference: Panel 11 and 12. Memorial: Le Touret Memorial in France.
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MOORE, WILLIAM. Rank: Private. Regiment or Service: Royal Irish Regiment.
Unit; 1st Bn. Date of Death: 21-November-1916. Service No: 10534. Born in Bride Street, Wexford. Enlisted in Wexford while living in Bagenalstown, Co Carlow. Killed in Action in Salonika. Age at Death; 23. Supplementary information; Son of the late Laurence and Anastatia Moore. From an article in the People, 1915; Private James Moore, Selskar Street, Wexford, 2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Regiment, is in hospital suffering from a bullet wound in the right leg. Private Moore has been on active service in France since the outbreak of the war. He has another brother, William, also in the firing line. See James Moore above. Grave or Memorial Reference: He has no known grave but is listed on the Doiran Memorial in Greece.

Regards.
 Tom.
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: gina45 on Wednesday 08 April 09 13:20 BST (UK)
i dont know if thats the right people but Blimey where did you get all that informaiton..
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: enfield on Wednesday 08 April 09 14:41 BST (UK)
I lurk around in archives and collect war dead databases.
 Regards.
 Tom.
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 08 April 09 17:34 BST (UK)
Arklow Marriage records;

John Brennan married Winifred Tracy 20/1/1874
(may not be one of the Brennan's your looking for)
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: shellback on Wednesday 11 November 09 21:26 GMT (UK)
Regarding Moores lost at sea .There were two lost in ,I think, 1862 .They were C.Moore aged 48 and Michael Moore 16. Both were on the  Wexford schooner "Maria" that went down with all hands off Hook Head . The elder More was mate on the vessel and the younger was the ship's boy. Father and son ,perhaps ?
Title: Re: Brennan, Howlin, Moore...
Post by: shellback on Wednesday 11 November 09 23:04 GMT (UK)
I should have mentioned that there were three others lost with the Moores. They were Captain J.Carr ,who also owned the ship and two unnamed men that they had picked up in Waterford . As far as I know it was never discovered who those two men were .