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Can any one help. I am looking for any information on Margaret BOSWELL born 1892. ( No birth certificate) She married Henry HEDGES on 24 August 1914. They lived in Chatham Kent. Her father was John BOSWELL a Horse Dealer.
If any one has any info. on Margaret her father or other family members it would be a great help.
thanks :)
Jenny
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so do you mean that she was living in Chatham in 1914, not that she was b there?
who witnesed the marriage?
Pauline
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Now lets try to explain this a little better
I am descended from a HEDGES family who lived for a while in Chatham and was contacted recently by a lady in Australia. She is the granddaughter of Henry HEDGES and Margaret BOSWELL it is for her that I am trying to find out about her BOSWELL line. I only know that her Henry HEDGES was born and lived in Chatham.
I am sure the marriage was in Chatham as it was registered in Medway. I can ask the Lady for the exact details but this will take some time. I know it's not much to go on, but I don't thing she knows much more.
Thanks Jenny
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It might be posting a link to this thread on The Travelling People board.
There are people researching BOSWELLS who may be able to help.
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PaulineJ I didn't answer that very well. Yes they were living in Chatham in 1914 at the time of their marriage. I have no idea where John BOSWELL was from. ;D
bearkat I thought this was the Travelling People board
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:-[ You're right. I thought it was the Kent board :( - perhaps you could post a link there
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hey nenefer, yes :o Margaret ( noony ) Boswell was married to my nans brother Henry. she died in childbirth. the funeral was held at my nans house in Best St. Chatham. The huge procession walked from there to Palmerstone Road cemetry where she is buried. most of her daughters went to australia. one lives in Norwich. she has a picture of her. l will telphone her. She will be able to tell you much more. Whats the connection? l am getting more and more excited by the minute.
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just thought i would list this as it relates to hedges, unsure if will relate to your line but might be of use to others who read this topic, 8)
emily bibby 19 yrs, father, walter bibby married to alec victor hedges 22yr, father elijah hedges witnessed by elijah hedges and maisie hedges 26/12/1932, st laurence church eastwood essex england.
may be of use to some-one. :)
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Hi everyone,
I've just read about the Hedges family. I believe Henry Hedges, married in 1914 to Margaret Boswell,
is related to me. They had quite a large family, although several babies died at birth. I would be
grateful if anyone else knows of this family. They lived in the Medway area UK.
Joyce.
Moderator Comment: split off from another topic and merged here.
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Hi Joyce and welcome to Rootschat. :D
It might be worth posting a reply to this thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,309864.0.html
Moderator Comment: topics now merged :)
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not sure if this is any help but found a family called boswell in
1901 Census chatham St Paul Medway kent
John Boswell 54 b 1847 Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Margaret Boswell 64 b 1837 Strood, Kent ( wife)
John it says on Census was a Shoemaker and something about Navy men/man private royal marines ?
The only other I could find was this
1901 census Barking St Margaret Essex
margaret Boswell 6 b 1895 grandaughter born barking
David Boswell 63 b 1838 Whitechapel, London
Eleanor Boswell 28 b 1873 Stepney london daughter of David
Davis is listed as a cabinet maker
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marriage :
Margaret M Boswell - Henry Hedges
3rd quarter 1914 medway kent 2a 1725
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Hi Everyone
Popping over from the "Hedges' Thread... ;D
Just a thought .....
I am wondering if Margaret isn't the daughter of Ellen/Eleanor and John is a 'fictious' father ::)
Following on from Tiggi's find in 1901
We find David Boswell (1838) married to Margaret :
1871= St George in The East, London
78 Sutton st
David Boswell 35
Margaret 37
Ellen 3
David W 2
1881 = St John Hackney
23 Clarence Rd
David Boswell 36 age ?? ::)
Margaret 35 age ?? ::)
Ellen 13
David 12
1891 = Barking, Essex
David Boswell 40 ...they never seem to age ;D
Margaret 36
Ellen 20
John May 26 ...born Hackney
1901 ...see Tiggi's post
1911
Romford Essex
in The same household as Margaret Boswell b 1893
David Boswell b 1838
Ellen Boswell b 1869
so I wonder if this is Margaret's Birth Registration
Margaret Ellen Boswell ...Middle name = Mother's name?
Jun q 1895 - Romford, Essex
Vol 4a pg 446
Maybe JOHN May of the 1891 census is her dad?
deb :)
oops ... added ... Just seen Tiggi's marriage Margaret has middle intial "M" ..so can't be Margaret Ellen :-[ :-[
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Boswell gypsy/travellers on earlier censuses...a few Johns listed....wonder if perhaps the birth might not have been listed if they were travelling...
http://romanygenes2.webeden.co.uk/#/census18613/4526606214
http://www.romanygenes.webeden.co.uk/#/newcensus/4529826973
and here, Levis Bosswell, a gypsy leader,was a horse dealer
http://www.romanygenes.webeden.co.uk/#/grandolddukkerindays/4527668317
Here a Lazarus & an Alfred are horse dealers ( use scroll at bottom)
http://romanygenes2.webeden.co.uk/#/census1881/4526695226
apparently "Boss'll" was synonymous with "gypsy"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Gypsies#Boswells
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Looked for M* M* B*l and didn't see a M__ Margaret or Margaret M____ although she might have been given the middle name if/when christened....and if Margaret was her middle name but used most often, then also a toughie....
Was hoping the names of her children might leave a clue...prolific family
They had a dozen children all told, starting with twins!
Daisy & Violet, John, George, Rose A. E., Arthur, William H., Ellen L., Margaret M, A., Percy A., Joyce V., George T.,
In 1901 there is a John Boswell, age 33 , Lancashire, Much Hoole with occupation down as "Travelling Gipsies"
also one age 33 in Walworth London / St John occ: Horsekeeper
One age 50 Llandysilio /Travelling In Caravan...likely the one from above in 1861
but can't see intothe actual census images...anyone of interest?
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well, reaching for straws a little but here's mention of a gypsy Daisy Boswell, Blackpool, one of gypsy Sarah's granddaughters..
http://www.archive.org/stream/journalofgypsylo05gypsuoft/journalofgypsylo05gypsuoft_djvu.txt
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hi
The only info I have re Henry Hedges Carter and Margaret Boswell is as follows
B1891Q4 as "Carter, Henry Hedges" Medway 2a/087 M1914Q3 Medway 2a/1725; No 140 Labourer, H M Dockyard Chatham Private, Transport 16th Bat: Middlesex Regiment H0877 or 40877 demobilized 19 April 1919 at Crystal Palace.
The only Margaret Boswell born in the appropriate range was Margaret Ann Boswell born Q3 1891 in Manchester (Lancashire) 8d/301 The only Margaret Boswell in the 1901 Census was aged 9 and lived Salford, Lancashire. Father Terrance Boswell was a brick-layer! -------------------------------Married Medway Q3 1914 as Margaret Marion with father as "John Boswell, Horse Dealer" Death Medway 1935 No 289 as Margaret Annie Could this William Alfred Boswell born 1854Q4 Medway 2a/269 be related?
Hope it helps.
My nan is Margaret Boswells niece- Ivy Giddins now Goulden
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hi there,i am seeking my mum's family who was boswell family.1930 who lived levenshulme manchester as far as i know .well i new i had romany ancestors but we didn't ever get told anything ,my mum was an evacuee 1939.on her birthcertificate it sez turner,as it turns out my mums mum was boswell ,her dad turner,an there were more children but i cant find anything.any help would be much apreciated .thank you regards pamela
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Maisie hedges was my mum❤️ She would have been 18 years old then.
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Back to the original posting...There is mention of an adoption of a baby from a Boswell mother...who worked for a Carter family. Intriguing enough to mention & post the url, methinks.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=648730.0
Has anyone checked the 1921 census to see where Margaret Hedges /nee Boswell was born? Still am wondering if she was from a prominent family/group of travellers, as her burial ritual gathered quite the crowd!
Also still so very sad for the woman who bore 12 babies, saw so few survive...and then died trying to deliver her 13th.