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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: Jerwood on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:36 GMT (UK)
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Elizabeth Reid nee Thomson was born in Tarbolton in 1806 and was recorded in the 1861 Census as a Public House keeper at 18, Montgomery Street. Her husband Andrew I have been unable to trace.
Her son Andrew was born in Tarbolton in 1826 and lived there for most of his life until his death in 1898. His occupation was a silk weaver. On one of his trips away from Ayrshire he met and married Mary Ann Jerwood in Spitalfields, London and she returned to live in Tarbolton until her death in 1896.
Elizabeth's daughter, and Andrew's sister, Agness was born in Tarbolton in 1831 and was recorded in the 1901 Census as a Grocer at 43 Montgomery Street.
Public houses, grocers and silk weavers on Montgomery Street, Tarbolton - the essence of Social History. Are there any local sources of information about these trades in Ayrshire ? Does anyone have any further insight on the Reid's of Tarbolton?
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There's a book 'Old Mauchline and Tarbolton' by John Hood available
ISBN No. 1840331720, Published by Stenlake Publishing, Catrine, you'll find some old photos of Montgomerie St - there's a pub, The Plough Inn, could this be where your ancestors were?
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Hello Jerwood,
I dont know if you have the earlier census for Elizabeth Reid, and her children.
By 1851. she is a widow.
There are 5 children it seems to Andrew Reid, and Elizabeth Thomson.
Andrew Reid, born 29/Dec/1825. Tarbolton,
John Reid, born 05/Jan/1827, Tarbolton,
Janet Reid, born 10/April/1829. Tarbolton,
Agnes Reid, born 08/March/1831. Tarbolton,
Thomas Reid, born July/1833. Tarbolton.
A couple of these births are submissions on the IGI.
It looks as if the father Andrew has perhaps died prior to 1841.
In 1841. four of the children are with Elizabeth, in Tarbolton, less John, born 1827.
It also looks to me that Elizabeths, parents were John Thomson, and Janet Ronald, does this work out with the information you have from Elizabeths, death, ie are her parents mentioned on her death certificate.
Regards,
Jonn.
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:)Thanks Agnes - I'll check the book out
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Thanks Jonn
I did have the earlier census data and son Andrew's marriage certificate - whence I got Andrew seniors details. I haven't managed to pin down Elizabeth Thomson's death so I am interested/curious about your source for her parents.
Best wishes
Jerwood
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I sent you a PM with details of what looks like your missing relly - if you haven't got it let me know, I'll try again.
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Hello Jerwood,
On the 1851. census, Tarbolton, Tarbolton Village, we have this family.
Thomson John, Head, age 70 years, M. M. Propritor of Land And Houses, born Tarbolton,
Thomson Janet, Wife, age 66 years, M. F. born Mauchline, Ayr,
Reid Thomas, Grandson, U. M. age 17 years, Student ( Orig Scholar ) born Tarbolton, Ayr.
This is The John Thomson, and his wife Janet Ronald, i was refering to, and Thomas Reid, is the son of Andrew Reid, and Elizabeth Thomson.
There is a death for Elizabeth Thomson Reid, died 1867. age 65 years, Tarbolton, Ayr. i think this is your lady.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Agnes
Thanks very much - I did get the MI information and it was very useful and all is beginning to add up and open up a few new avenues
Jerwood
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Jonn
Gotcha! Thanks very much
Jerwood
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Montgomery Street sounded familiar, my ancestors by the name of Vallance are listed on the 1891 census at 35 Montgomery Street Tarbolton
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The MI in Tarbolton churchyard shows that Andrew died in London:-
(Front) In mem of John Thomson d 25 mar 1862 aged 82; Janet Ronald his wife d 11 Feb 1862 aged 73; also their children jean d 1829 aged 7; margaret d 1831 aged 19; Ninnian d 1832 aged 22; Alex Thomson surgeon d in Bombay 1830 aged 26; Ann White his wife d 1826 aged 22; Ann their dau d 1844 aged 18; (right hand side) John Thomson in mem of his wife Margaret Steel d 19.Jan 1868 aged 54; Ninnian his son d 15 Apr 1845 aged 6m; above John Thomson d 29 Jul 1885 aged 78; also of John Thomson son of above John Thomson d 27 Jun 1909 aged 71:
(left hand side) Sac to mem of Andrew Reid d in London Aor 1835; also his wife Elizabeth thomson d 26 Nov 1867 aged 64; also their son John d inf: also their gdau Elizabeth Reid d Nov 1865 aged 20m.
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Hi
There is a grave in Tarbolton cemetery with this inscription -
sacred to the memory of Andrew Reid d in London April 1835; also his wife Elizabeth Thomson d 26 Nov 1867 aged 64; also their son John d infant, also their gdau Elizabeth Reid d nov 1865 aged 20 months.
I hope this helps
revmother
ps there are lots of other Thomsons in the grave too (bit long to transcribe all of it).