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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: Kells on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:00 GMT (UK)
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I am searching for the ancestors of John Coleman born c1770 who married Hester Harrison in Kings Stanley on 24 Oct 1791. Children were Harriet 1793, William Harrison 1796, John c1801, Hannah Maria 1802, George 1803 and Eliza 1808.
I have found some trace of wife Hester but I'm not sure which parish John was from and haven't found anything in Kings Stanley.
Any help much appreciated.
Kelly :)
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Kelly,
There's a J.C X H.H. marriage in the IGI and as it's a submitted entry, it's not to be trusted without verification in a root source document. However, I can confirm that in my transcription of some of K.S's BT's for 1791 there is, "John Coleman of Rodboro <Gloucester? unsure> & Hester Harrison October 24".
Searching for J.C's baptism at Rodborough via http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyGloucester_(N-Z).htm#R reveals another submitted entry which also needs verification even though an LDS member has linked it to the K.S. marriage. I have no information from Rodborough but perhaps somebody might help you with it.
Searching for H.H. at K.S. on the above site gives a christening in an acceptable time window: you can be sure there was such a baptism on that day, but is she yours? That's what you must decide for yourself I'm afraid.
Regards
Chas
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Hi Chas,
Thank you for your response, and for checking the records for this marriage and baptisms. I agree with what you say about the user-submitted entries in the IGI but that was all I had to go on. I have also used the census records which have helped me work out that John and Hester Coleman are the right parents to the younger John Coleman I have been researching, but there is where it ends as the earlier info is less reliable, and so I took the IGI info.
Hopefully something else might come up in other people's records. I haven't had any luck as yet with the Rodboro connection.
Thanks for your help.
Kelly.
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Hi Kelly,
Sorry for the extremely late reply.
John Coleman and Hester Harrison certainly had John,Eliza,George,Hannah,Harriet and there was also another daughter named Mary Ann Coleman who had 5 children to her first husband who was possibly murdered before the youngest was born then she married James Hogan and had another 5 children, Hester's parents were Abraham Harrison and Jane Vick.
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Hi Benjamin,
No problem, I am still looking for John Coleman. I have a fair bit on the Harrison and Vick sides but John eludes me.
I was not aware of Mary Ann, do you have a baptism date for her? My husband descends from John junior.
Kelly.
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Hi Kelly,
Currently i'm unsure but i believe her baptism was 2 Feb 1823 in Almondsbury, Gloucestershire, England she was born in 1816 in Kings Stanley and died 17 Jan 1894 in Herbert,Otepopo,North Otago.
I am descended from Mary ann
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Hester Harrisons Father was Abraham Harrison baptised 23 Feb 1739 in Kings Stanley. His wife was Jane Vick 1749-1817. Hester had 2 daughters Harriet and Anne (Mary Ann?)
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? not sure if you have this
Gloucestershire Records Office/Ancestry, which just gives brief details
Overseers Report
COLEMAN: Kings Stanley
John: 2 years
William: 4 years
Harriet: 8 years
Hester :(no age given)
Reference: P288 OV 3/4/2/4
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Try Longhope Gloucestershire
Father Robert Coleman 1676 to 1773
Mother Mary Butcher
More children than I first thought so need to go back over for evidence
I'm a Harrison by the way but the link is tenuous, we share a Grt grt grt grt grt grt grt Grandfather, Abraham Harrison 1670 married to Elizabeth Heaven
Roberts father was also Robert Coleman 1622-1682 married to Elizabeth G Mott 1632-1700
This is from others trees so I would need to go through the evidence to verify; NEVER just copy!
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Hi Benjamin, I have just come across this post and not sure if anyone is still paying attention to it.
I am also descended from Mary Ann Coleman through her first marriage to William Beard who was murdered while she was heavily pregnant with their 5th child Jane.