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Title: 1901 census look up please
Post by: mentmore on Tuesday 24 February 09 22:54 GMT (UK)


Looking for Hannah  Vickers in 1901 census. Hannah was born in Mentmore, Bucks 1872. In the 1891 census she was living in Bedfordshire. The 1911 census (Index only) she may be living Islington, London.
I beleive Hannah had a child Dorothy.
Any help much appreciated,
Thanks
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: genjen on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:02 GMT (UK)
In 1901, she is  in Orsett, Essex

RG13/1663/28/1
Old Rectory
Hannah Vickers, wid, 27, Cook, Domestic, b.Bucks, Mentmore
Dorothy M, dau, 1, East Dulwich
Frank A Moult, servant 14, Whitechapel

No sign of the head of household.

Jen
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: jacques on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:06 GMT (UK)
Just beat me to it but it looks as though she was possibly a servant to William Wyllie a Farmer together with several Estate workers and their families.

RG13 1663 page ?28

Pam
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: genjen on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:11 GMT (UK)
Possible but as he is in household no. 2 and she is in no.6, The Old Rectory, I am wondering where the rector is? It is possible that he was away from home on the night of the census.

Jen
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: jacques on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:16 GMT (UK)
This looks like Dorothy May Vickers Birth Sept qtr 1900
reg  Wem  6a  700


Pam
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: mentmore on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:24 GMT (UK)


Pam and Jen

Thank you both for your quick replies, thank you.
I have a sneaky feeling that Hannah was not married although she says she was a widow. The 1911 census should settle that.

Much appreciated
Carol
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: genjen on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:24 GMT (UK)
Wem is in Shropshire and the census gives Dorothy's birthplace as East Dulwich so I don't think that can be the right one, Pam.

There is another one, in Dec 1899, Camberwell, 1d/853
Dorothy May V Vickers

Jen
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: genjen on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:30 GMT (UK)
The FreeBMD entry for the Camberwell birth has the following note attached to it;

"Illegitimate daughter of Hannah Varney of Ledbury Bucks, who adopted the maiden name of her grandmother, Mary Viccars (b.Aston Abbots, 1803, married to John Varney, 26/10/1826"

Whether or not this is accurate, who knows, but it might help.

Jen
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: mentmore on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:41 GMT (UK)


Jen

You are an absolute Gem, Hannah Vickers was Hannah Varney and Mary Vickers was indeed Hannahs grandmother and John Varney her grandfather. Mary Vickers and John Varney were my gt.gt. grandparents.
Thank you Jen and Pam for your help.

Carol
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: genjen on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:43 GMT (UK)
I'm very glad to have been of help, Carol.

Isn't it lovely when things fall into place.  :D

Jen
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: mentmore on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:48 GMT (UK)

One more piece of the jigsaw completed, only another ?????????? to go.

Best wishes

Carol
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: JFrad on Wednesday 04 September 24 20:10 BST (UK)
Hi Carol
I’ve just come across your posts.
Dorothy is my grandmother. I’d love to know if you were able to find / validate any more information on her please.
Thank you
Joanne
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: mentmore on Wednesday 04 September 24 23:53 BST (UK)
Hello Joanne,

My, that post was a long time ago, 15 years in fact, I had to read what I'd written.

I do have more information on Dorothy, will have to sort it out and get back in touch with you.

John Varney and Mary Vickers were my gt.gt grandparents, one of their sons Edward married Susan Grubb who were the parents of Hannah and grandparents of Dorothy.

Maybe a good idea to tell me what information you have, to safe duplicating.

Best wishes
Carol



Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: JFrad on Friday 06 September 24 18:02 BST (UK)
Hi Carol
Thank you for coming back to me so quickly.

On Dorothy’s birth / marriage certificate her father is listed as Archibald Humphrey Vickers. Dorothy had always said that he was a solider. But we’ve never been able to trace him and have suspected he did not exist.

I note there is a reference on the FreeBMD entry about her being illegitimate. Do you know if there is a way to find out if that was an entry at the time or a subsequent entry?

If you are interested I have photos of Edward Varney (senior), Susan, Edward junior (Teddy) and Hannah. I’m happy to share.

Thank you
Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: mentmore on Friday 06 September 24 22:48 BST (UK)
Hello Joanne

I'm going to send you a PM. via Rootschat.

Carol


Title: Re: 1901 census look up please
Post by: mentmore on Sunday 08 September 24 15:03 BST (UK)


Hi Joanne

Did you receive my PM on Rootschat?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Carol