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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Essex => England => Essex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Dorking123 on Tuesday 24 February 09 19:35 GMT (UK)
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I have two siblings born in Purfleet
Emma Matthews abt 1814 & Seering Hall Matthews abt 1817
The parents are James Matthews born abt 1786 & Sarah Elizabeth Brown b1786 in Milton by Gravesend (just across the river)
I suspect they were married in Purfleet
Could someone please help me with this family who moved to Dover around 1820
The later births in Dover were non comformist (Countess of Huntingdon Zion Chapel) but are in the Kent archives
I am also intrigued by the name Seering Hall Matthews which I can only confirm from his death in 1892
Thanks
Gerry
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The only registers deposited at Essex RO for Purfleet, St Stephen are banns for 1915-1936 (D/P 587/1/1).
If that church/parish still exists it is a fair assumption that the church still retains all other registers (because the pages have not yet been filled up).
If that church/parish no longer exists or was not created until 1915 t may be worthwhile pursuing the West Thurrock connection referred to below.-
Essex RO have a note to the effect that banns for 1963-1971 see St Clement's, West Thurrock.That is an old parish
PS (at 17.55) I have since found out from Google that St Stephen's Church is still there. It is associated with Saint Michael's Aveley
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As I had no replies I went to Chelmsford myself a fortnight ago & actually found Emma Matthews baptism under West Thurrock C of E although they were non conformists
Also found another sibling I knew nothing about - John baptised 26 Aug 1812 also West Thurrock
Unfortunately no trace of the marriage though, so back to Canterbury for another trawl through the various parishes on Sheppey where I knew they lived for a period
Thanks anyway
Gerry
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Edmund Israel Matthews b 1820 in Kent married Elizabeth Austin Pike 5 May 1833 in Hougham near Dover, Kent. He named his fourth child Seering Hall Matthews b Dover, 1840. The family moved to New Zealand abt 1848. Seering Hall Matthews married in New Zealand in 1862 and called two of his sons Edward Seering Matthews and Seering Frederick Matthews.
There must be a connection as Seering is a very unusual christian name.
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Thanks for the marriage info which is new to me
I have in fact now got a lot more on this side of my family
Edmund Israel Matthews was born 29th Jan 1810 in Queenborough Kent & was baptised there on the 2nd Feb the same year
He was the fourth of eight chidren born to James Matthews & his wife Sarah
He died on the 13th October 1895 in Auckland NZ & had seven children that I know of
Four were born in Kent the last three in Auckland
I can explain the origin of the Seering name but it is all rather complicated - Edmund's Aunt Elizabeth born 1776 married a Seering Hall in Queenborough on the 20th December 1796
They had six children but unfortunately Elizabeth died shortly after giving birth to twins on the 1st Nov 1808
I have researched this whole family extensively as Edmund's parents are my 3x great grandparents
If you are related please send me a personal message with your email address & I can send you some genealogy reports
Thanks
Gerry
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Dear Gerry,
How do I send a personal message?
I don't want my email address made public.
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Thats why I asked you to use the personal message service!
On this site go to help then click on personal messages
In the meantime I'll send you one with my email address in it
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Interesting. I stumbled across this via Google. Edmund Israel Matthews is my great x 3 (maybe 4?) grandfather. I live in Auckland and have a sea chest with a hand written card tacked inside the lid, saying 'Edmund Israel Matthews, Royal Engineers, New Zealand' . My father had it restored about 30 years ago. I believe he came to NZ after spending some time in Hong Kong and I think Canada before that, as well.
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I am connected to Matthews family through wife of Edmund Israel Matthews. She was Elizabeth Austin Pike chr 1 Oct 1812 Brixham, Devon. My g g grandmother was her sister Jane Pike b 15 Sep 1819 Dover, Kent.
Their parents were Philip Pike, Mariner and Elizabeth Austin(Austen).
Bev
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Hi
I thought the age she is given in the archived death notice below was a bit young, as her husband was 80 at the time! Obviously a typo that should read 78 years.
MATTHEWS.
Funeral Notice, Herald, 13th June 1890.
Elizabeth Austin Matthews died 12th June 1890, aged 48 years, wife of Edmund Israel Matthews.
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Elizabeth and her husband migrated to N Z. Her sister Jane Pike married Thomas Head in 1843 in Dover and three of their sons migrated to Brisbane, Queensland, Australia and one went to Canada.
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Matthew Hunter (my great great uncle) , detailed in this link,is a grandson of Edmund's. He was a famous scientist, who was the first person to produce useable titanium. He did top secret work for the US military in WW2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_A._Hunter
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Who were Matthew Hunter's parents? I looked up N Z Births and found Matthew Albert Hunter b 1878 parents Scott Hunter and Ann Caroline. Was Ann Caroline daughter of Edmund Israel?
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Ann Caroline was not a child of Edmund Israel Matthews (1810 to 1895)
I can confirm that Elizabeth Austin Matthews was indeed 78 at the time of her death in Auckland in 1890
I know nothing about your great great uncle Matthew Hunter & would be grateful if you can explain his ancestry further
Thanks
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Purfleet (some say named after Elizabeth 1 relating to her poor fleet) was a small place where everyone knew everyone until recent years
with that in mind could Sarah Mathews born around 1800 be related?
1851 census
139 Grays, Essex
Samuel Pasterfield................. head....... 52........... chalk pit lab............ Warley, Essex
Sarah...... ".............................. wife......... 50........................................... Purfleet, Essex
Samuel... ".............................. son..........22........................................... Grays, Essex
James..... ".............................. son..........17........................................... Grays, Essex
Daniel..... ".............................. son..........9............................................. Grays, Essex
Alfred...... "..............................son.......... 7............................................. Grays, Essex
+ 3 lodgers
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1841 census
Lime Kiln Row, Grays, Essex
Samuel Pasterfield................................. 40........................................... Y (born in county)
Sarah...... "...............................................40........................................... Y
Henry..... "...............................................20........................................... Y
William... "...............................................20........................................... Y
Eliza....... "...............................................15........................................... Y
John....... "...............................................15........................................... Y
Samuel... "...............................................12........................................... Y
Mary....... "...............................................10........................................... Y
Uriah....... "...............................................8............................................. Y
Joseph.... "...............................................4............................................. Y
Daniel..... "...............................................1 month.................................. Y
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1837
4:00 am on the 20th November 1837.....Grays, Essex
Samuel Pasterfield comes into the World. Samuel's father is Samuel Pasterfield a labourer who works with lime and Samuel's (junior) mother is Sarah Pasterfield (nee Mathews)
1837
Samuel's twin brother John also came into the World (birth is registered on the same page). Sadly neither appear in the census of 1841 so one has to assume they both died, although I cannot see death registrations to confirm this.
Bryant
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No not a relation I'm afraid
Edmund Isreal Matthews (born Queenborough in Jan 1810) was the first (known) child of James Matthews - he was born 19th Feb 1783 in Queenborough, Kent
I do not know where or when James Matthews (1783) married his wife Sarah (1786) but I think her surname might have been Brown - she gives her birthplace as Milton in a later census - this could be Milton by Gravesend or Milton Isle of Sheppey
There was an Elizabeth Matthews born in 1776 in the earlier generation but she married a Seering Hall in 1796 & died having given birth to twins in November 1808 also in Queenborough
The family were in Purfleet from around 1810 to 1820 whence they moved to Dover
Hope this is of some help
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Matthew Hunter is my Grand Uncle.
Matthews parents were Scott hunter and Ann Caroline the daughter of Mr & Mrs J Moore of Auckland New Zealand
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I got my wires crossed and realised straight away, sorry. He is my great great uncle, but not on the Matthews side. A bit embarrassing :-[
You must be my mum's cousin that has lived in the UK for a long time. J.H?
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No it's not me that lives in UK. I live in New Zealand. The only member of my family living in the UK that I know of, is Sheevaun, one of my Mothers sisters daughters.
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Hello! I'm new to Roots Chat, and to family tree research in general. That is, until I visited my 87 year old cousin in New Zealand and learned about my grandfather - Seering Frederick Matthews, who married Jennie Court. She is a mine of anecdotal stories about 'Fred', but I am trying to piece together what happened after he any Jennie moved with his family from Auckland to Sydney. Apparently he 'joined up', but to what regiment I don't know - or what happened to him in the intervening years before he came back to Australia.
If anyone can fill in these gaps I would be grateful, and can share what I have found out about him.
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Hello Dodders
We are fourth cousins
I have sent you my email address in a private message so that I can send you more info
There is far too much to post here
Serring Frederick Matthews married Jennie Court on the 5th Auguast 1896 in Auckland - they had four children the last of whom died in 1990
Regards
Gerry
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Seering Hall Matthews (died 14th Jan 1892) and his wife Jane Elizabeth are buried in Reading Old Cemetery, Reading, Berkshire.
We are leading a project commemorating people buried in the cemetery and we came across Mr Matthews. His epitaph says that he was 'Clerk of Works for R.E. dept). If you would like to share information about his life story, we would be interested to know and publish on the site: www.readingoldcemetery.uk.
I am a new member and cannot send a PM yet.
Thank you
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Seering Hall Matthews (died 14th Jan 1892) and his wife Jane Elizabeth are buried in Reading Old Cemetery, Reading, Berkshire.
We are leading a project commemorating people buried in the cemetery and we came across Mr Matthews. His epitaph says that he was 'Clerk of Works for R.E. dept). If you would like to share information about his life story, we would be interested to know and publish on the site: www.readingoldcemetery.uk.
I am a new member and cannot send a PM yet.
Thank you
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I have prepared two genealogy reports (ancestors and descendants) that I can send to you and have got them ready as PDFs
These will explain the strange first name of Seering
I do not wish to make these details public on this site
Please can you give me an email address I can send them to as attachments
Do the graves of Seering and his wife give their respective date of births?
Are you able to take photos of the gravestones for me?
Thanks
Gerry
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I am testing whether I can send a private response as a new member.
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I think I need three posts to allow me to do so.