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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: heathera1940 on Saturday 21 February 09 18:43 GMT (UK)
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can any one help in finding a marriage between Philip Hildreth B. 1819 in Tweedmouth Berwick on Tweed and Isabella Russell b.1821in Horncliff Northumberland. Their first child William I believe was born in Tweedmouth in 1845. Philip was a seaman and does not show up on any census as living with Isabella. In the 1871 census he is listed as master on the ship The Vigilant. They moved to Durham between 1852-1855 . I can not find a marriage any where. I think Philip died in 1874.
Many thanks in anticipation
Heather
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There is an earlier thread about this marriage, just linking it to avoid any duplication of searching
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,359690.msg2364661.html#msg2364661
This looks like eldest child's birth registration, so the marriage should be some time before that
Dec 1845 Berwick * 25 14 Hildreth William
Isabella was at home with her family in 1841, so I searched the GRO index 1841-45 without success for this marriage, hope someone else may find it in parish records
Barbara
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Was Philip's father William Hildreth, mariner? I see that Philip's oldest child was named William. There was a cross-border marriage at Lamberton Toll on 17 Sept 1847 between Anthony Watson Pratt, moulder, to Margaret Ann, daughter of William Hildreth, mariner, both of Tweedmouth. If the Hildreths were nonconformist, then Philip's marriage might also have been a cross-border one, and the records for these are very patchy.
Kath
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Hello there. Thanks for replying.
Philip's father was Wiliam (marriner) b.c1791 he married Elizabeth Ramsay
b.c 1791 Bewick on Tweed. I cannot find that marriage either. Philip did have a sister Margaret b c 1828 so this could be the one. Their first born was about 1818. I think Margaret was the last born. I will keep looking
Heather
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Hi Heather
I have the Hildreth's in my tree - Isabella Russell was the sister of my 3 x gt grandmother Sarah Russell. I could not find a marriage for Isabella and Philip either.
I did however find a record in Tweedmouth Marriages at the Berwick Archives for Philip's father William to Elizabeth Ramsay 5 Jan 1812.
Marion
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Thank you for the information. I did not have the marriage for William and Elizabeth, and am no further forward in finding the marriage for Isabella and Philip, perhaps if he was always away at sea they did not find the time to marry!!! still I will keep on searching
Heather
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So sorry to resurrect such an old thread but........
In the book "Irregular Border Marriages Volume 1" (ISBN 0 946594 26 0) I see an entry for 1844 (entry 1095) the reads:
1095 Lamberton Toll Jan 1 Phillop Heldrith to Isabella Russill both of Tweedmouth. Wit. Andrew Tait, Mary Tait
All the spellings are as they appear in the book. I hope this information isn't too late for you. :)
I have a Hildreth in my family tree who also married at Lamberton Toll. (Margaret Ann Hildreth married Anthony Watson Pratt) there.
Best regards
Kevin Ferguson
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Many many thanks. I am glad you did resurrect this topic. I did not have that info.
Thanks again Heather
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Dear Kevin
Many thanks for giving us this information. Great to have this record - Isabella is the sister of my one of my 3 x gt grandmothers who also had an irregular border marriage in Berwick - now I will go back an put the information into my records.
Many thanks - it pays to keep looking!!
Marion
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Marion,
Is her sister Margaret? She is my 3rd great maternal grandmother.
Best regards
Kevin
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Dear Kevin
My Isabella is Isabella Russell who married Philip Hildreth - your Margaret's brother. I have quite a bit of rough information on the HIldreth's mainly from Berwick archives and other sources, if you need to contact me off list I shall be happy to share it with you.
I have not looked at this section of my tree for ages so maybe I'll start again.
Marion