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Title: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: Headbanger Veron on Friday 20 February 09 23:48 GMT (UK)
I was contacted a while ago by someone who had a name in his family tree he thought must be connected to mine owing to a peculiar collection of middle names which various people had in common. After much detective work we have established the following:

My great, great, grandmother's younger brother's grandson, married a lady who had a son by a previous marriage. The son by the previous marriage, married the half sister of the grandfather of the person who contacted me!

so...... what relation does that make me to him.... does anyone want to try and work it out? No prizes!

Veron  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: Fitty on Saturday 21 February 09 09:24 GMT (UK)
Sounds to me like they got as far as they could go at the top of the tree and then went sideways.

My gt gt gt grandmother wasn't married when she gave birth to my gt gt grandmother, she married another chap a couple of years later.  This family is proving to be quite interesting so i'm following that lead at the moment.

It's so far sideways my tree, i need a larger monitor!   ;)
Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: Sloe Gin on Saturday 21 February 09 15:33 GMT (UK)
I won't attempt to define the relationship  ;D but if these middle names are distinctive, could it be that there is another connection to your family, as yet undiscovered?  You don't say where they are, but if it's a close community it could be so.

I add a lot of sideways names to my tree if the people are easily found in the records.  You never know when they may provide a clue to something else.
Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: cms on Saturday 21 February 09 21:35 GMT (UK)
How about "Half second cousin", Veron! Anyone else agree with that?
Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: millymcb on Saturday 21 February 09 22:55 GMT (UK)
......did the step 2nd cousin three times removed marry the half great aunt of the person who contacted you? :o :o :o


I got lost at that point and my brain started to melt a bit ;D ;D ;D ;D


Milly

Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: Mogsmum on Monday 23 February 09 07:40 GMT (UK)
My software works this sort of thing out for me!
Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: johnnyboy on Friday 06 March 09 23:22 GMT (UK)
How about "Half second cousin", Veron! Anyone else agree with that?


Easily clarified by a simple calculation.

Genetically speaking, you're not related to the person who contacted you because your mutual connection, the son by a previous marriage, is not genetically related to you. However, by marriage, you are a half cousin (in law) of some degree, but it is not second.

It is first half cousin (in law) twice removed. Your grandmother and the gggranny's  brother's grandson are first cousins. The person who contacted you is two generations descended from his grandfather and his half sister, putting him in the same generation as you are. 

Here is a diagram that my lack of a social life gave me time to construct:

                          4xgmother
      3xgmother                       her brother
       ggmother                             ----
          gmother      (cousins)     grandson             ==                  half sister           grandfather
           mother                                                                                                          ---
  Headbanger Veron                                                                                        Contact person
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

There will be an examination at the end of the school term!

I was able to do this because I once had to figure out my relationship to someone who turned out to be a half fifth cousin.

Regards,
John  :o :o :o

 
Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: Headbanger Veron on Friday 06 March 09 23:32 GMT (UK)
Well thank you everyone... and yes, you should get out more John!!   ;)

Veron  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: cms on Saturday 07 March 09 15:03 GMT (UK)
I'm pleased we gave you something to do, John!

Better than Sudoku.

And no-one can prove you wrong, even though I still stand by my first analysis.
 ;)
Caroline
Title: Re: How's this for a distant relation??
Post by: johnnyboy on Saturday 07 March 09 15:36 GMT (UK)

Here is a diagram that my lack of a social life gave me time to construct:

Hi all: I meant to say that I concocted the diagram while taking a much-needed breather from the crush of an incredibly demanding A-list social life. The celebs and the red carpet life barely give me a moment to myself.  8)

John
 :o :o :o