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Title: Help Requested - John McGregor c1878
Post by: Southern Scot on Friday 20 February 09 20:59 GMT (UK)
Hi folks
I'm wondering if anyone has done any previous research on McGregor born c1878, married in 1899 to Ann Gardiner, lived at 35 Nicol Street in Kirkcaldy.

I think I've found his parents John and Helen but for the life of me I can't seem to trace back any further.

Many thanks

SScot
Title: Re: Help Requested - John McGregor c1878
Post by: jmgrgr on Monday 23 February 09 06:27 GMT (UK)
I think I've found his parents John and Helen but for the life of me I can't seem to trace back any further.


Have you been to http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ ?  What do the registration entries for his birth and his parents' marriage say? Have you found him in the 1881, 1891 and/or 1901 Censuses?
 
Have you looked for name variations (such as Ellen or Nell for Helen, etc)? 

Title: Re: Help Requested - John McGregor c1878
Post by: DDJJake on Monday 23 February 09 10:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Southern Scot,
Here's some material help for you  ... if you want 1899 and 1870 Marriage images and 1881 Census image, personal message me with your e-mail.
DDJJAKE
Using data from 1899 Marriage Image ....
I found,
1881 Census: 42 Dallfield Walk Dundee
John MC GREGOR (Head) Boot And Shoe Maker 30 b.Perth
Ellen  [McCourt]  MC GREGOR Wife Jute Spinner 29 b.Perth
Children;
Donald     7 b.Dundee
Alexander 5 b. Dundee   
John MC GREGOR**** 3 b. Dundee
Mary[McMullin] MC COURT   Mother In Law   51    F b.County Tyrone, Ireland
Married (not widowed!)
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John McGregor married Helen McCourt in Dundee on 24 June, 1870
Old Parish Record

Births to them before 1875 ....
HELEN WEBSTER MACGREGOR  b.: 20 FEB 1872 Dundee
Probably died before 1881 
DONALD MCDONALD MCGREGOR b. 27 OCT 1873 Dundee
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Data from 1870 Marriage Image ...
John McGregor's aged 22 on his marriage in 1870
Parents were Alexander McGregor (Hammerman) ...Alive
and Jane McDonald ...Deceased
Helen aged 19 on marriage in 1870
Parents were William McCourt (Free Church Missionary) Alive
and Mary 'McMillan' [McMullin] Alive
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ALEXANDER MCGREGOR m. JEAN MCDONALD 
on  01 May 1849   Perth
OPR

Children's births registered  ... but with a big gap to 1855 !
John not registered, should be in 1851 Census !
OPRs ....
COLIN  on 09 Jul 1855 Perth
MARTHA ANN  on  03 Jul 1858 Perth
ANN on 13 Mar 1860 Perth
ANDREW on 26 Jun 1862 Perth
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Helen McCourt b. c. 1851 does not seem to be in OPRs
but, siblings are ...
SARAH ANN MC COART  b. 15 DEC 1855   Perth
Father:  WILLIAM STEWART MC COART 
Mother:  MARY MC MULLIN     
WILLIAM HENRY JOHN MC COURT b.  10 AUG 1858   Perth
Father:  WILLIAM STEWART MC COURT 
Mother:  MARY MC MULLIN     
 Both OPRs