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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: Wendl on Friday 20 February 09 10:37 GMT (UK)
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Hi there...
Hoping someone out there may be familiar with or researching this family. What I know, Alexander Lennox, b abt 1865 Co. Down,( Roman Catholic) married Margaret Hedley b. 1873...on 2 Jul 1892 in Belfast....she was Protestant....they had the following children:
Robert John Lennox b. 2 Nov 1894 d. 19 Sept 1913 (familynote says Killed, found out he drowned in the Lagan)
Mary Lennox b. 1896
David Lennox b. 1897
Eileen Margaret Lennox b. 1900
Jessie Magdaline Lennox b. 1902
Alexandria Lennox b. 1905
Vincent Hedley Lennox b. 1907
Bernadette Elizabeth Lennox b. 17 Apr 1910
James Alexander Lennox b. 14 Apr ????
susannah Hedley Lennox b. 2 Jul 1912.
At the time of the `1911 Census they were living at 118 High Street, Belfast....any insight, connection, information would be greatly appreciated....
All the Best
Wendy
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Wendy,
Can't find anything on Alexander Lennox other than the marriage which you already have. However Margaret Hedley was born on 4 May 1875 to David Hedley and Isabella Hodgin who were married on 7 Apr 1863 in Berry St. Presbyterian Church, Shankill, Belfast. Other children were
31 Jan 1864 William James Hedley
20 Nov 1865David
16 Jun 1868 Isabella Hodin (sic) Hedley
2 Jan 1871 John Hedley
4 May 1875 Margaret Hedley
18 Jan 1878 Elizabeth
17 Mar 1880 Anna.
Regards
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Good Morning Kingskerswell,
Thankyou for your response....the Margaret you mention, b 4 May 1875 is a "cousin" to the Margaret who married Alexander Lennox...Believe it or not, pretty well every "Hedley" family has a Margaret....
I believe the Margaret Hedley Lennox I'm looking for is the daughter of Robert Henry Hedley, aka "Harry"(shipwright) and Jessica Alexandria Cumming...it appears she may have been born in England, Baron in Furness(according to the 1911 census)...I question this??? But due to her father's occupation may be the case (need to confirm tho)
However, I know this is the family in question, as I have a birthday book which belonged to my Grt Grt Aunt (also Margaret Hedley but fortunately she was born to a sister so has a different Surname, being Close) the Lennox children are listed in the book which dates 1891-1941...as well, it seems that the "Family" were not to thrilled with "mixed" marriages....I can confirm this fact through a partial family tree produced in the 1800's, which has stillborn babies listed, but parties who chose to marry outside their faith are not... (I'm Canadian..so this in itself astounds me, even though I have a firm understanding of religious issues in Northern Ireland)
Again, thankyou for your effort.
All the Best
Wendy
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Wendy,
I assume that you have seen the family details on the 1911 census for Co. Down
Regards
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Hi,
I see you have the families of Close, Gardner, smyth and Morrison.
All these names I seek.
They are all linked to me by McGrogans, Monaghans, McIlvennys and other names. All from Belfast and Co ANtrim areas and maybe Co Derry.
I'm seeking information on
Mc Grogan-James b. 1881 -30-Male Mc Grogan-Isabella-34-Female Mc Grogan-Margaret-4-Female Mc Grogan-James-3-Male Mc Grogan-Robert-0-Male Close-Robert-35-Male bro in law 1911 at 3.1 Lancaster Street Belfast
John McGrogan wed Catherine Gardner kids Mary McGrgon b. 1867.
I think the above had other children including twins.
John b.1867 and possible Henry and Neal.
I have a Margaret Smyth whose father was Adam Smyth from Co Antrim.
Margaret married in Belfast to Robert Monaghan.
Any information would be great.
Other names I seek are McKenna, Parker, Duff, Campbell and more.
Laura
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Other names I seek are McKenna, Parker, Duff, Campbell and more.
Do you know where Duffs lived? any names?
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Laura,
I can find the marriage of John McGrogan to Catherine Gardiner in Glenwhirry Presbyterian church in 1863. Doing a parent search on the IGI lists the the following children but the mother's name is spelled GARDNER.
James 10 Oct 1865 Glenwhirry
Mary 3 Nov 1867 Antrim
Rose 17 Oct 1869 Armagh
Female 29 Oct 1872 Ireland
Margaret 21 Sept 1874 Glenwhirry.
Regards
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Hi,
Thanks for the infomration but I see they were Presbytarians and my McGrogans/Close were RC unless they changed their religion but I doubt it.
I have also came across this link for Close/McCartney lines.
http://www.5thcolumn.co.uk/familytree/index.php?id=34
Much appreciated
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Laura,
I would not reject the findings out of hand. At that time mixed marriages may not have been accepted with joy but they were fairly common. The tradition was that the couple got married in the bride's church and thereafter any boys followed the father's religion and any girls followed the mother's. Remember this was well before the Papal decree, Ne Temere.
Regards
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Hi Laura....
I thank you for your reply....my Heldey's are related to the Close's, as are the Lennox's thru the Hedley Close line....However, my Closes' are presbyterian....it was not uncommon for them to cross religion's thru marriage...my Grt Grandmother was a Lawlor (catholic) maried a Close and is listed as presbyterian in the 1911 census, however was a practicing catholic upon her arrival in Canada.
The Closes' I have appear to have originated (at this point) circa 1840 in the area of Magheragall (near lisburn) and many are buried in the Magheragall church yard. My grt grt grandmother was Susannah Hedley, this is where he Lennox name comes in...alexander married margaret Hedley the daughter of Robert Henry Hedley and Jessica Cummings.
If you would like to correspond pls Pm me with your email address.
All the Best
Wendy
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Hi,
Just noticed the question on Duffs.
I have Daniel Duff married Margaret Kerr 1868-1929
and their children married into lines of Monaghan, Morton and Malone.
My family were the main families of Lancaster Street Belfast.
Richard went to the USA and Daniel Duff went to Scotland.
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Hi,
Just noticed the question on Duffs.
I have Daniel Duff married Margaret Kerr 1868-1929
and their children married into lines of Monaghan, Morton and Malone.
My family were the main families of Lancaster Street Belfast.
Richard went to the USA and Daniel Duff went to Scotland.
Thanks- not the Duffs I have information about.
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I am the grandson of James McGrogan and Isabella Close and now live in Canada.. I have many close relatives (McGrogans and other) still living in Ireland, most around Belfast. What is your connection?
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I am the grandson of James McGrogan and Isabella Close and now live in Canada.. I have many close relatives (McGrogans and other) still living in Ireland, most around Belfast. What is your connection?
Hi there....
My grandfather was John Close, the son of James Watson Close II and Sarah Lawlor, James watson CloseII, was the son of James Watson Close and Susannah Hedley...James Watson Close was the son of John Close and Elizabeth Davis of Magheragall then Belfast ...I too have many Close Rellies, in Belfast, Australia, England and here in Canada where I live....would love to compare notes with you.
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My John McGrogan wed Margaret Monaghan of Lancaster Street.
There children were Barny, Kathleen (Kitty), Molly died 2003 Liverpool and another son I think.
I know there were more McGrogan links as I have a Margaret McGrogan marrying 1850 to Charles McGregor.
I have lots of other McGrogan information but finding it hard to find who Johns parents were.
Laura
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Thanks, I will.
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Hi,
I see you have the families of Close, Gardner, smyth and Morrison.
All these names I seek.
They are all linked to me by McGrogans, Monaghans, McIlvennys and other names. All from Belfast and Co ANtrim areas and maybe Co Derry.
I'm seeking information on
Mc Grogan-James b. 1881 -30-Male Mc Grogan-Isabella-34-Female Mc Grogan-Margaret-4-Female Mc Grogan-James-3-Male Mc Grogan-Robert-0-Male Close-Robert-35-Male bro in law 1911 at 3.1 Lancaster Street Belfast
John McGrogan wed Catherine Gardner kids Mary McGrgon b. 1867.
I think the above had other children including twins.
John b.1867 and possible Henry and Neal.
I have a Margaret Smyth whose father was Adam Smyth from Co Antrim.
Margaret married in Belfast to Robert Monaghan.
Any information would be great.
Other names I seek are McKenna, Parker, Duff, Campbell and more.
Laura
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I have the McGrogans you are looking for.
My grandfather was James McGrogan, married to Isabella Close and they had several children including James, (my father)Robert, Barney and Margaret.
Your query has been referred to me by my brother( Barney who lives in Canada.
As I have just arrived in on this discussion I would appreciate some background.
Tom McGrogan
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I am the grandson of James McGrogan and Isabella Close and now live in Canada.. I have many close relatives (McGrogans and other) still living in Ireland, most around Belfast. What is your connection?
Hi there....
My grandfather was John Close, the son of James Watson Close II and Sarah Lawlor, James watson CloseII, was the son of James Watson Close and Susannah Hedley...James Watson Close was the son of John Close and Elizabeth Davis of Magheragall then Belfast ...I too have many Close Rellies, in Belfast, Australia, England and here in Canada where I live....would love to compare notes with you.
Hi,I have an Elizabeth Close of Armagh , whose father was Patrick. She married a Lamont, Daniel, from Antrim. Do you have an Elizabeth Close in your records?
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Hi,
Just found out more about my McGrogans.
Cornelius McGrogan wed Jane Mulholland,
son Hugh wed Mary Woods (Father James of Co Armagh)
1901 census family lived 11 Great Patrick St
1911 census family lived 23 New Lodge Rd.
Later kids born were Teresa 1911, Hugh 1914-1917, Hugh 1917 and Frances Veronica 1920.
Any information on Cornelius would be appreciated.
Thanks