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Title: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: sparrett on Friday 20 February 09 00:34 GMT (UK)
Hi All,
Kind of revisiting my old topic but with a totally different slant

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,360074.0.html

I had always thought Robert Henry Woolacott junior b. 1878 had married LILY BENNETT in 1913 and I had based some searches on that assumption. :P :P

His father Robert Henry Woolacott senior b. abt.1851 left a Will and I was able to read it on the wonderful new Provic facility.

During my reading it became apparent that it was he, the old man, who married LILY BENNETT.  He was a widower whose wife  Mary Jane BENNETT had died in 1912.

 He had 2 children in the second marriage.

His marriage certificate [which I downloaded post haste] shows he has taken 3 or 4 years off his age ..after all 58 for the 26 yr old bride looks better than 62.

He was a farmer in Echuca and my great grandfather.

I would like to know more about LILY BENNETT.

According to the marriage details, she was born in Melbourne  about 1887.
Father ROBERT, Mother Mary CHISOLM.

I know there have been some electoral searches, but having more parental information may turn up something on her.
I have some limited information about her 2 children Raymond and Bessie.
Particularly interested in her early location and any siblings etc.

Long Post ::) ::)
Thanks.
Sue
PS I think the shared surname of the 2 wives is merely co-incidence..not sure.
The first wife [Mary Jane] father was William, not Robert

Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 01:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue.....

Can't see a Robert and Mary as parents.....but there's this one......

Lily BENNETT born Hawthorn in 1887
Father = Robert BENNETT & Mother = Matilda CHISOLM
Ref = 11715


Dee
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 01:17 GMT (UK)
Searching Bennet as well as Bennett, and can't see children born to a Robert Bennet(t)and Mary Chis(h)olm between 1836 and 1901.

But....have found a death for Matilda Bennett....which doesn't help.......  :-\

Matda BENNETT aged 45 died in Hawth in 1895
Father = Robt Chisolm & Mother = Sarah Ann MAXWELL
Ref = 9548


A number of children born to Robert and Matilda.....I'll post them if you want them.


Dee
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: Keengeni on Friday 20 February 09 01:46 GMT (UK)
Marriage

CHISHOLM Matilda  b. Ireland
=
BENNETT  Robert  b. Nunawading
1874  Reg Number  4456

K.


Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 01:58 GMT (UK)
Saw that too, K.  :D  :D

I can't find mention of a Robert with wife Mary Chis(H)olm anywhere .......

I'd like Sue's response before I post the list of children though.....  :-\


Dee
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: sparrett on Friday 20 February 09 02:39 GMT (UK)
Thanks to All ;D

Perhaps LILY's mother just called herself Mary for some reason.

Robert was a bootmaker on the marriage cert.

Dee, I would be pleased to see the list of children to Robert and Matilda, if you would post them.

Another coincidence is that Mary Jane BENNETT the first wife was also born in Nunawading.  I seem to remembe that district was much larger then than now.

Now I am just trying to figure something here.

One of Mary Jane Bennett's brothers was named ROBERT.
He was born 1859.

If the two Robert's are the same man, his parents shoud be William Bennett and Jane Johnston.

Is there a birth?

Sue

Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 02:55 GMT (UK)
Bingo!  :D

Robt BENNETT born in NWADING in 1859
Father = Wm BENNETT & Mother = Jane JOHNSTON
Ref = 5201


Births to Robert and Matilda coming up......


Dee
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: sparrett on Friday 20 February 09 02:57 GMT (UK)
OH Lordy.
As if it wasn't unsavoury enough.  Now he's married his sort of neice :o

Sue
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 02:59 GMT (UK)
 ;D  ;D  ;D

Guess what Robert and Matilda's first child was named?  ;D

Mary Jane BENNETT born in RICH in 1871
Ref = 11527

Robert BENNETT born in MELBOURNE WEST in 1873
Ref = 11196R
(There’s also this…..
Robert CHISHOLM born in MELBOURNE WEST in 1873)
Mother = Matilda CHISHOLM
Ref = 11196R

George Maxwell BENNETT born in HAWT in 1875
Ref = 16473
(Mother’s name just given as Matilda)

Thomas BENNETT born in HAWTHORN in 1877
Ref = 16182
 
Sarah Ann BENNETT born in HAWT in 1881
Ref = 10039

Henry BENNETT born in HAWT in 1882
Ref = 23613

Isabella BENNETT born in HAWTHORN in 1885
Ref = 3174

Lily BENNETT in 1887 .....already posted

Isabella BENNETT born in HAWTHORN in 1889
Ref = 31898


Dee
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 03:00 GMT (UK)
Here's some sad deaths.....  :'(  :'(


Mary Jane BENNETT aged 5 weeks and born  RICH died in 1871
Ref = 4922

Sarah Ann BENNETT aged 9 weeks and born in HAWTH died  in 1881
Ref = 4723

Isabella  BENNETT aged 1 and born HAWTHORN died in 1886
Ref = 1730

Isabella BENNETT aged 1 and born Hawth died in 1890
Ref = 12096



Dee
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 03:04 GMT (UK)
Forgot this one......son Robert born 1873.......

Robt BENNETT aged 36 died Castn in 1909
Ref = 7994
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: sparrett on Friday 20 February 09 03:08 GMT (UK)
Guess what Robert and Matilda's first child was named? 

Mary Jane BENNETT born in RICH in 1871
Ref = 11527


That's nice.  Robert's favourite sister perhaps ;D

dee, thanks for the postings.

I will study them.
Sue
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 03:10 GMT (UK)
Found some more deaths of Robert Bennett and Matilda Chisholm’s children…..….and it looks like another child…….

Geo Maxwell BENNETT aged 74 died at KEW in 1949
Ref = 9913

Walter BENNETT aged 68 died at ROYAL PK in 1946
Ref = 9313

Thomas Patrick BENNETT aged 77 died at CAMB in 1954
Ref = 5698


I'll see if I can find Walter's birth, then I'm off for a bit....doc's appointment...... :-\


Dee
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: tropicalj on Friday 20 February 09 03:22 GMT (UK)
Sue  don't you  mean  he married his favourite sister in law ;)

I  found  this not uncommon practise  I  have ggg uncle  upon dying his wife married his sister in law  he  was 68 and she was 21,  a big age difference and you wonder how  but  the wifes parents had married at 17 and had some t22 children over a 40 year time fram  the  youngest being born  when the wife was 51 you just imagine how it was.(tiring I would hazzard ;))  But no more  children with the new wife though.

I  was  checking  the deaths and  they all refer to  the  mother as Matilda

Jenn
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 20 February 09 03:25 GMT (UK)
Can't find a birth for a Walter to Robert and Matilda......  :-\

Did find this though....don't know where he fits but the Nunawading caught my eye.....

There was an Inquest for a Robert BENNETT Nunawading 1879 because a dray ran over him.

Hi Jenn!  :D


Dee    ....where's the waving smiley!  ;D
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: sparrett on Friday 20 February 09 03:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenn,
Sue  don't you  mean  he married his favourite sister in law  


Not sure which of my remarks you mean :D

Robert Woolacott married whom
I think neice is closer to the mark :(
Robert Bennett was Mary Jane [first wife] brother.
Lily was his child.
So Robert was the brother in law to Robert Woolacott and his child seems to me more neice than SIL to Woolacott.
If it was RObert's wife I would say SIL.

Guess what Robert and Matilda's first child was named? 

Mary Jane BENNETT born in RICH in 1871
Ref = 11527

That's nice.  Robert's favourite sister perhaps  

Robert's sister was Mary Jane Bennett


Well, what a big day for me.

So much exciting information, thanks to all.

Big filing day ahead.
Sue
Title: Re: Revised Lily Woolacott query
Post by: tropicalj on Friday 20 February 09 03:57 GMT (UK)
Oh Sue, Sue Sue,

the only SIL  around  here is me.........sorry  mate meant to say Niece,  what an interesting saga.

Hi  Dee............ :-*

kind  thoughts from the befuddled Jenn of  the North