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Title: Hoye family
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 15 February 09 17:10 GMT (UK)

Joseph, William, John & Henry children John Hoye and Jemima Taylor Stetchworth 1832-1841. Any information?

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Mum44 on Sunday 15 February 09 17:19 GMT (UK)

What sort of information are you looking for ?

Do you want them in censuses ?

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Mum44 on Sunday 15 February 09 17:33 GMT (UK)

Think this is them:

1851
HO107.  P. 1760  Fol. 178  Pg. 24

Staffordshire Place, Cambridge

HOYE
John  Head  M  50  College Coal Porter B.  Suffolk. Bradley
Jemmie  Wife  M  45                               B. Cambs. Stetchworth
Joseph T  Son  Un  22  Hawker              B.   ~             ~
William  Son  19               ~                   B.    ~             ~
John  Son  16                                         B.    ~             ~
Harriet  Dau  6                                       B. Cambs. Cambridge
Henry G  Son  2                                     B.      ~           ~
Charles  Son  2 mth                               B.   ~             ~
James Taylor  Nephew  16  Bricklayers Labourer B.  Cambs. Stetchworth

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Sunday 15 February 09 18:59 GMT (UK)

try http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html for baptism. burial, 1841/51/61 indexes

David

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Redroger on Monday 16 February 09 15:24 GMT (UK)

Mum 44 Looks very likely as Jemima's maiden name was Taylor.
David Thanks for website.
Don't recognise address,Staffordshire Place, anyone one know if it was close to Cambridge Place?

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: tjg1946 on Saturday 11 April 09 10:53 BST (UK)

Hi Red
The Hoyes you where looking for are my relatives from my mothers side, I have traced them back to 1740.
I am from Cambridge, but cannot remember Staffordshire place, only Staffordshire St. I will have to research further to find Staffordshire Place.
It is about a mile apart from Cambridge Place, which where my other relatives lived the Kings. Both places are in what you would call the Town centre.
I had John and Jemima with only three children though, so thanks to you I have found 3 more.
If you want to compare notes let me know,
Regards
Terry

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Redroger on Saturday 11 April 09 17:54 BST (UK)

Yes Terry, I think we should compare notes by Personal Message in the first instance.
Roger

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Selina on Saturday 11 April 09 18:29 BST (UK)

I live Cambridge too, know of Staffordshire Street and Staffordshire Gardens and Cambridge Place.  Will look on my CD for Staffordshire Place, its bugging me now I have read your posts.  LOL!

Selina

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Redroger on Saturday 11 April 09 18:32 BST (UK)

Thanks Selina, I heard of Staffordshire Place through this thread, and in view of my family's connection to Cambridge Place thought it might be in fairly close proximity.
Redroger

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Selina on Sunday 12 April 09 16:00 BST (UK)

My opinion is that Staffordshire Place changed its name to Staffordshire Street sometime between 1851 and 1861. 

There appears to have been a similar number of dwellings in both Place and Street and there seems to have been "The White Swan" in both.

Quite a number of residents in Staffordshire Place in 1851 are in the same dwellings in Staffordshire Street in 1861 census.

Selina

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 12 April 09 19:26 BST (UK)

That seems a reasonable supposition Selina, My grandmother told me many years ago that Cambridge Place had a formidable reputation, something like Dodge City etc. Perhaps Staffordshire Place changed its title to avoid guilt by association?

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Selina on Sunday 12 April 09 19:34 BST (UK)

A little to far away from Cambridge Place for the residents of Staffordshire Place to be concerned about I think.

Staffordshire Place/Street was/is in the Barnwell district.  In those days mostly a very poor area and a very dodgy one earlier on!

Selina

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 12 April 09 19:39 BST (UK)

Well suited then! I didn't know about the reputation of the Barnwell district, though I am told I had relatives there too!See list at foot for names.

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Selina on Sunday 12 April 09 19:57 BST (UK)

I have quite a few Barnwell connections over various years and I lived in the area, near the river, when I was a child.  There were still some poor parts then.

I used to go to Cambridge Place to general furniture auctions with my mother.  Not much left down there at that time as far as I can recall and just looking at my Cambridge directories I see that in 1930 there were about  60 dwellings, by the next directory I have, 1951,  there is just a club, auction rooms, a joiners and a chapel.  So must have been a mass clearance at some point!

None of your names in my tree though.

Selina

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 12 April 09 20:03 BST (UK)

At least 2 more names Ke(i)fford and Willis will be going into the list when I update it. The Stimpson name for Cambridgeshire ought really be in Lincolnshire, they just lived on the southern side of the frontier nr Wisbech.

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Selina on Sunday 12 April 09 20:09 BST (UK)

I have St. Andrew the Less Parish Reg CD if you need a look-up let me know.

Selina

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 12 April 09 20:12 BST (UK)

Many th\nks indeed Selina, Expect to hear from me by personal message in the near future, but not tonight.
Roger

Title: Re: Hoye family
Post by: Selina on Sunday 12 April 09 20:13 BST (UK)

OK, another time would suit me better too.

Selina