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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: tay on Thursday 12 February 09 19:46 GMT (UK)
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Hi
l have just found out that my family are from Mullabrack Amargh not 100% but would ask for any information, l have Robert Bell born in 1839 and married Margaret Allen ( ll think ) 1842 they
had they had ( S ) John 1864( B ) Ireland - Jane Bell 1867 (B) Ireland Thomas Bell 1869 (B) Ireland he is my G G grandfarther - Robert Bell 1872 (B) Ireland - James Bell 1874 (B) Ireland then they had more children in Co Durham Tanfield. so after after James they decided to come to England.
l have found l think they lived in Mullabrack Amargh, not sure what they did or anything,
If anyone has any info would be very grateful
Tay ( will keep my fingers crossed )
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this could be them.
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 16 Oct 1860
Groom Name robert BELL
Bride Name margaret ALLEN
Church Markethill First Presbyterian Church
Parish Mullaghbrack
Civil District Armagh
County Armagh
children born to this couple.
JANE 5-5-1866. THOMAS 15-2-1869. ROBERT 24-5-1871. ALL BORN ARMAGH
regards mary.
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Tay,
I can confirm Merryderry's dates and add James born 24 Dec 1873. John may be missing because this was the year when civil registration became compulsary and it was some time before people complied fully with the law.
Regards
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Hi Both
Thank you for your help, Do you know anywhere l can look to get more information and i will leave
you both alone but thank you very very much for all your help, have got the bug now as l need to find
the fathers to both Margaret and Robert more so robert as he will be my G G Grandfather,
Thank you very much all information would be very welcome
Tay xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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The actual marriage certificate should list the names and occupations of both fathers.
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hi tay,
there is a mullaghbrack townland and a mullaghbrack parish. there is a robert bell in griffiths valuation of ireland (1864 in this case) in the townland of hamiltonsbawn, parish of mullaghbrack.
http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php
type in his name and mullaghbrack for the parish then when you get a result click on the map icon and you get a map from the 1850's,which you can fade in and out with google maps. it takes a bit of getting used to but it is fun :)
tony
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Hi everyone
Thank you for all your help but l am now been very cheeky but if you dont ask,
l have managed to find the father of Robert bell and his name is Matthew bell he was a farmer also
Margaret allen father is James Allen also Farmer Residents at the time of marriage is Derryaine.
How do l find or if any info on Matthew Bell,seem to find l get a little further then a dead end again.
if anyone can help l would be very gratful
Tay
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Tay, Markethill 1st and 2nd Presbyterian records are onlin at:
www.markethillpresbyterian.co.uk
Have a look
RosemaryJoan
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Hi
l have just found out that my family are from Mullabrack Amargh not 100% but would ask for any information, l have Robert Bell born in 1839 and married Margaret Allen ( ll think ) 1842 they
had they had ( S ) John 1864( B ) Ireland - Jane Bell 1867 (B) Ireland Thomas Bell 1869 (B) Ireland he is my G G grandfarther - Robert Bell 1872 (B) Ireland - James Bell 1874 (B) Ireland then they had more children in Co Durham Tanfield. so after after James they decided to come to England.
l have found l think they lived in Mullabrack Amargh, not sure what they did or anything,
If anyone has any info would be very grateful
Tay ( will keep my fingers crossed )
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i might be a link to your family through james .
stoor
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Hi stoor
Hope you can help in anyway as l have drawn a blank
tay
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Hi stoor
Hope you can help in anyway as l have drawn a blank
tay
Hi
l have just found out that my family are from Mullabrack Amargh not 100% but would ask for any information, l have Robert Bell born in 1839 and married Margaret Allen ( ll think ) 1842 they
had they had ( S ) John 1864( B ) Ireland - Jane Bell 1867 (B) Ireland Thomas Bell 1869 (B) Ireland he is my G G grandfarther - Robert Bell 1872 (B) Ireland - James Bell 1874 (B) Ireland then they had more children in Co Durham Tanfield. so after after James they decided to come to England.
l have found l think they lived in Mullabrack Amargh, not sure what they did or anything,
If anyone has any info would be very grateful
Tay ( will keep my fingers crossed )
Hi
l have just found out that my family are from Mullabrack Amargh not 100% but would ask for any information, l have Robert Bell born in 1839 and married Margaret Allen ( ll think ) 1842 they
had they had ( S ) John 1864( B ) Ireland - Jane Bell 1867 (B) Ireland Thomas Bell 1869 (B) Ireland he is my G G grandfarther - Robert Bell 1872 (B) Ireland - James Bell 1874 (B) Ireland then they had more children in Co Durham Tanfield. so after after James they decided to come to England.
l have found l think they lived in Mullabrack Amargh, not sure what they did or anything,
If anyone has any info would be very grateful
Tay ( will keep my fingers crossed )
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Hi stoor
Hope you can help in anyway as l have drawn a blank
tay
Hi
l have just found out that my family are from Mullabrack Amargh not 100% but would ask for any information, l have Robert Bell born in 1839 and married Margaret Allen ( ll think ) 1842 they
had they had ( S ) John 1864( B ) Ireland - Jane Bell 1867 (B) Ireland Thomas Bell 1869 (B) Ireland he is my G G grandfarther - Robert Bell 1872 (B) Ireland - James Bell 1874 (B) Ireland then they had more children in Co Durham Tanfield. so after after James they decided to come to England.
l have found l think they lived in Mullabrack Amargh, not sure what they did or anything,
If anyone has any info would be very grateful
Tay ( will keep my fingers crossed )
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they came from derryraine .mostly farmers .and shop owners . most of them went to canada and america .my great uncle was named james .father robert bell mother margaret allen . i have no link to any members of the family only james family in canada .and they don,t have any links other than me . do you know anything about the younger children who were born in england ? .
stoor
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Hi stoor
Hope you can help in anyway as l have drawn a blank
tay
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Hi Stoor sorry have not been back to you have not been around sorry
i have not got alot of info on the family yet as l have only just started to be honest,
all the family are from co durham and my grand father was Matthew bell and married to lilly bell ( bates ). l will get some information for you and post it
to be honest l have not come up with any info on james yet as l was looking at the direct line.
l do have relatives that have gone to canada but was not aware that any in the line had already gone so that is good news.
l promise i will be back with more info when i find it
tay
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hi tay
i seem to have lost you somehow . is matthew dawson bell your g grandfather . if so ,what is the name of his son .
stoor
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hi tay
james bell married a childhood friend from derryraine in canada in 1902 .she travelled to canada to get married .his birthday was 23 oct 1873 .her name was isabella allen .they had 4 children 1 boy3 girls .they had 9 gc .3 girls 6 boys .3 boys are called bell . he lived until he was 90 .
stoor
i know that you have dec but that was when he was baptised
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Hi Stoor
My grandfather is Matthew Dawson Bell born 25 dec and Lilly Bell ( Bate ) born Co Durham
my g gandfather is Thomas Bell and wife Mary Bell ( Dawson ) born ireland
my g g grandfather is Robert Bell and wife Margaret Bell ( Allen ) Born Ireland
James was son of Robert Bell Thomas brother.
Robert also had jane,thomas.robert,james,margaret and william,matthew Elizabeth
hope this helps a little will send more tomorrow,
tay
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hi tay
james called his son stanley matthew. his daughters were called grace .dorothy. myrtle ,what name did your dad have.
stoor
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hi tay
i did not know about matthew and elizabeth .i think that john went to canada and died there at a very young age . stoor
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Hi Stoor
l did not know any of them went of to Canada or the usa, do you know more info on james.
my fathers name is ronald
tay
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thank you for your dads name .i have just written a letter to canada its still open so i can add that bit to it .james worked in the mine and he had an accident which meant that he had to leave .so he started up on his own selling coal . but most of the allen and bell familys were self employed . somewhere i have a photo of james at a family party . james has a g granson .called michael he is a doctor ,and 2 years ago he came to briton with his father allen .i think it was a birthday treat for allens 70th .allen is the son of grace .they met up with me .i write to stanleys son .
stoor
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Hi Stoor
me been cheeky can you find that photo for me it would be lovely to see, l have been looking for james and isabella but can not find anything, do you know when james went over to canada and when he married isabella. as l will have a look for you and see if l can find anymore information.
tay
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they married 1902. he was there late 1800s.i will try to find that photo .please could you check this out
sarah jane gibson b 4 sept 1864 stanley
married john bell born armagh ? married in stanley 1884
father william gibson b 1838 stanley
mother elizabeth foster b1842stanley
stoor
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Hi stoor
hope you understand this
husband William Gibson Born 1838 Stanley wife Elizabeth Foster born 1842 Stanley
child Sarah Jane Gibson born 26 march 1864 Died 4 sept 1941 Victoria B.C Canada.
John Bell b abt 1855 co armagh Ireland
died 11 jun 1898 Nanaimo B.C. Canada
Married Abt 1884 W stanley co durham
children
Robert William Bell b 9th Aug Place Nanaimo BC Can
Henrietta Gibson Bell b 16 sept 1885 christened 1888 stanley Co Durham
Beatrice Isabel Bell b 24 sept 1887 stanley co durham
Margaret Allen Bell b 18 dec 1897 Nanaimo canada
Hope this helps let know tay
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oh sorry stoor
Children Robert William Bell year of birth was 1889
sorry
tay
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hi tay
don,t go by the 1855 date we need to know what it says on the marriage lines .this family has moved all over canada and america .they have no idea who they are .i want to check if this is thomas,s brother or his uncle
johns son . .robert had a brother john ,who was married twice . this was someone just guessing
stoor
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hi tay
don,t go by the 1855 date we need to know what it says on the marriage lines .this family has moved all over canada and america .they have no idea who they are .i want to check if this is thomas,s brother or his uncle
johns son . .robert had a brother john ,who was married twice . this was someone just guessing .the marriage records must be in stanley . england
stoor
i knew about this family . i am not really lost just trying to sort out who,s who .with all these names the same .it is like a jigsaw .
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Hi Stoor
are you doing the family tree for the people in canada, as l am a little lost as to where you are in the tree, are you a relation, and is micheal in canada now as a doctor.
tay
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hi tay
i am on the allen side of the family .i know the names of the people .as they were all neighbours .i am just sorting everyone in to their right places . i am helping the bell side of the family in canada . when i get it sorted . i hope to be able to join them all together . the allens lived, in an area called .allens hill .all the farms were close together . there were more bells than allens .my gran was james sister in law . it is very easy to mix people up. so i double check everything .thats why i would like to know about johns marriage lines. so that i can put him the right slot .
i am a retired female. stoor
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hi tay
isabella allen was my grans sister .
i have found the photo of james bell . do you have a link in middlesbrough.james went there on a visit before he went to canada .but i don,t know why .
stoor
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Hi stoor
have you been looking at my messages under the canada one have a look and tell me what you think, tay
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Hi Stoor
not as far as l know. maybe he was visiting a friend,
tay
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hi tay
the family did live in nicol street .that must be john as james was living with sarah jane the widow of john bell .from tanfield . the bell family were very close and margaret allen bell .would have been about 1 when her dad died .
stoor
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Hi Stoor
Is there any more information you need from me. as l want to help if i can.
tay
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no thanks tay, thats me sorted .i always knew that was james brother .but until i was sure i kept checking . i don,t need any info . you now have james .john and thomas . i still think there is a family link to middlesbrough . perhaps one of the other brothers went there .
stoor
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Hi stoor
will you let me know what happens as l would love to hear, as it would be so exciting to hear
that l have more family in canada as l still have my uncle in british columbia and lot of cousins
tay
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hi tay
what part of bc ,are your family in ? i can,t make out if you are you male or female .? i have family in middlesbrough .
stoor
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Hi Stoor
l am a female and my family are in Vancouver B/C. also most of the family are born in tanfield co durham,
tay
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hi tay
thank you . i have been busy on another site.. i have a few other family names to check . for people in australia
stoor
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hi tay
i am waiting for news from canada . i will keep you posted .if i get any info .
my gg grandad was margaret allens cousin.then their children james and isabella got married .
stoor .
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hi stoor
That would be very kind of you, l hope its good news and we have found more of the family tree.
tay
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hi tay
i have just received a letter .but no new info .i will now try another source. is your uncle in canada a bell ?.i have found out that some of the allen family also went to durham .but i have to check that out
stoor