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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Flintshire => Topic started by: cnerys on Wednesday 11 February 09 20:10 GMT (UK)
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I have recently received a birth certificate for a son of one of my ancestors who was born in Whitford and am wondering if the place name is traceable today.
I think the place is 'Mwdwl' Whitford. though it doesn't sound like anything to me. That's how I make it out on the birth certificate . Any thoughts would be great as I will be visiting my brother next week who lives in Whitford.
Kind regards
Nerys
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Hi Nerys,
Can't help with the tracing of 'Mwdwl' but it is recognizably the normal Welsh name for a hay-cock, though of course less used in these days of mechanised farming. I used to be allowed to make them when I was (a lot) younger.
Best of luck,
Pinot :)
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Hi Pinot,
I'm sure if I ask my father he could tell me all about 'hay-cocks' too as he worked on a farm from a young boy.
The father of my ancestor was a Schoolmaster so I would have expected them to live in a good home? although I don't think they lived there very long as they migrated down to south Wales. I am just starting to find out bits and pieces on this family, so all good stuff. :)
Best wishes
Nerys
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Hello, don't know whether it's any help but there is a Mwdwl Eithin in Carmel close to Whitford, Flintshire.
Janey
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Hi Janey,
That's looking hopeful for a start thanks. There probably were quite a few houses there but unfortunately the birth certificate doesn't give any further clues, so might be a dead end job. Will google again.
Best wishes
Nerys
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Mwdwl Eithen (or Eithin) is common in (North ) Wales and means "Gorse Stacks". They are often on a hill or other prominent place and signify a place where gorse would be burnt to form a beacon; as a warning or a celebration.
Mwdwl Eithen farm in Whitford parish Flintshire is up a lane opposite the primary school in Carmel and leading to Pantasaph. My 1st Cousin 5 x removed farmed there in the early 1820s. He was William Bagshaw (wife Elizabeth) and he later went to farm at Rhydwen farm Whitford.
John
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Hi John,
That's a very interesting reply as my ancestor Richard Morris was a Schoolmaster so I can try asking if he taught at that school. I didn't get the chance to visit Whitford at the time so am no closer to finding it. I think, without digging out my certificates, Richard's son was born in the 1860's.
Thank you for your reply.
Kind regards
Nerys
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Hello Nerys
My Grandson is currently at the (modern) school in Carmel !!
In the 1800s the school building was up the lane I spoke of. It is called Mwdwl Eithin Lane.
Happy Hunting
John
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Hi John,
How interesting. My ancestor was Richard Morris who was brother to my GGGrandfather. He was born in 1845 Llangerniew, Denbighshire and was a Schoolmaster. I should imagine living so close to the school he taught there before moving down to South Wales. Richard's son also Richard was born at Mwdwl which was the beginning of my line of enquiries.
Kind regards
Nerys