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Title: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: treeve on Wednesday 21 April 04 20:36 BST (UK)
Hello yawl!!
I have been trying to trace the origins and family of my Joseph Fry, born
1812,  I have just found his entry in the 1851 Census (Cornwall ).
He married in Breage, near Penzance, Cornwall 1838
to Mary Ann Hall.
In the 1851 Census, Joseph states he was born on Guernsey.
He also stated on his marriage record that his father
was a sailor, also by the name of Joseph FRY.
Any clues would be welcome.
Best Wishes,
Raymond
Title: Re:Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: tab on Tuesday 08 June 04 10:36 BST (UK)
hi, I am also looking for birth place of the same Joseph Fry, just to confuse matters more the 1871 census lists is birth place as N. K. Devonshire
Title: Re:Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: treeve on Tuesday 08 June 04 11:36 BST (UK)
I now know a little more about the history surrounding Joseph Fry - and I have a possible solution, which I am putting together. "NK" is not known. "Devonshire" is a query. It is also clear that he was vague as to his origins and age, from later details I have.
What is your connection to Joseph Fry?
Best Wishes,
Raymond
Title: Re:Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: tab on Tuesday 08 June 04 12:43 BST (UK)
Hi, My connection is through Joseph Fry daughter Elizabeth Fry who wed William Stratten in 1868, their daughter Eveline was my great grandmother. most of the census have Joseph and Mary Ann births as around 1812 and 1820 which do not seem to tie up with their ages on their deaths on the bdm site. Terry in Cornwall
Title: Re:Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: treeve on Tuesday 08 June 04 13:01 BST (UK)
Terrific ... If you can wait a few days, I will post what I have to date, later on .... One problem is that someone has placed data on the IGI which is incorrect - I have original data transcribed by myself from the original Registers ( I have been tracing all my branches for over twenty years ), along with some Certificates, etc.,... Joseph Fry married in Landewednack first, his wife died, and he later re-married to Mary Ann Hall. All best, Raymond, Penzance, Cornwall
Title: Re:Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: tab on Tuesday 08 June 04 13:17 BST (UK)
hi, will wait happily Terry St. Just Cornwall
Title: Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: dairymaid on Friday 11 November 05 18:22 GMT (UK)
Hello Raymond

I am also researching the family of Joseph Fry b abt 1812 in Guernsey.  My husband is descended from his daughter Martha Fry b 1857 Sancreed.  Any help you could give would be much appreciated.
Incidentally, we also live in the Penzance area!
Jean
Title: Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: treeve on Friday 11 November 05 23:11 GMT (UK)
Hello Terry and Jean,
Apologies for the longer than planned delay.
I will soon be able to set out the tree I have
on my website ....
Good to hear from you Jean.
More soon, I am in the midst of finishing
the WH Podd fleet details ....
Best Wishes
Raymond
Title: Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: dairymaid on Sunday 13 November 05 00:13 GMT (UK)
 Look forward to seeing your web site Raymond, thanks.

Jean

Title: Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: Evarney on Thursday 08 June 06 03:37 BST (UK)
I am also looking for the same Joseph Fry! I saw the same thing about being born in Guernsey but lost track him at that point. Any Help at all with this one will be greatly appreciated

He is my 3rd great grandfather on my mothers side of the family. She was born in Cornwall too
Title: Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: treeve on Thursday 08 June 06 08:40 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,
Just to update you all ....
I now have a great deal more time available,
and so I will now be concentrating on
completing the various parts of my website,
including the Fry Tree.

Best Wishes
Raymond
Title: Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: treeve on Thursday 08 June 06 22:55 BST (UK)
Hello - I have put together a summary
of what I have .... This will be expanded
on the website, with narrative and census
and register details, etc ....

Joseph Fry ( soldier ) m Mary Stephens
Madron 26th January 1768
I believe him to have come from Devon,
I have two parallel leads which point in that
direction.

Their son was Joseph Fry, a sailor. He
lived in Penzance and sailed to the Channel Islands,
and I have reliable published narrative that
confirms that he was in Penzance in 1808.
I believe he married in Guernsey. I have some
information from the Guernsey census and
someone on the Island that confirms this.
I also have historical information which gives
background to the Devon and Channel Islands
connection with Penwith.

His son was also Joseph Fry, born Guernsey 1812.
He arrived in Landewdnack ( near the Lizard )
and married Jane Williams Eddy 3rd November 1835.
The Marriage Certificate shows he was named
Joseph John Fry. "A labourer of Lizard Town".
There was a cholera epidemic in Penwith in 1832,
which would explain the death of both his father
and wife before 1838, since at that time it is shown
on the register entry that his father was deceased.
Jane died and he re-married to Mary Ann Hall
in Germoe Parish. 6th October 1838. Joseph is
noted at "Joseph Fry, widower and husbandman,
son of Jospeh Fry, sailor. ( I have read the original
entry in the Registry ). They had 12 children.
Joseph Fry became a tin mine worker.
The Cornishman newspaper announcement of
his death 6th January 1882 gives his age as 62.
The address was given as 12, Prospect Place.

The 12 children were
Ann, Mary Ann, Elizabeth, Rebecca, Elizabeth,
Susanna, Joseph Thomas, Rebecca, Martha,
Joseph Thomas, John Edwin and William George.
A number did not survive to adulthood.

Joseph Thomas Fry m Victoria Jasper.1878

They had seven children.
Joseph Thomas, Ernest, Elizabeth, Jessica,
Leonard, Annie and Joseph.

I am descended from
Jessica Fry m Edward Forward 1911
"Jessie" was my grandmother.

Best Wishes
Raymond

Title: Re: Joseph FRY 1812 Guernsey
Post by: treeve on Wednesday 14 June 06 22:01 BST (UK)
I have completed the pages on the Fry family in the area
of Penzance starting from 1768.
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~treevecwll/frypz.htm
Despite many clues and offers, there have not
yet been any conclusive parents for Joseph Fry
who was married in 1768; I am however, convinced
that his origins were in Devon, he sailed via
Weymouth; and his family grew from Guernsey.
Ther are obviously other children, but I have not been
able to find them, it is especially difficult, given the
nature of Joseph John Fry's father in his occupation
as sailor. Many of his family could well have been
born at sea, for that matter.
Unless anyone can add to these pages, I am content
with the results.

Best Wishes
Raymond