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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: marie64 on Monday 09 February 09 21:55 GMT (UK)

Title: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: marie64 on Monday 09 February 09 21:55 GMT (UK)
Hi i am trying to find David King Taylor who died Jan 15th 1888 he was married to Margaret Thompson who died 7th July 1888.I have spoke to cemetery department at stirling who can confirm he is buried at St Ninians Churchyard Stirling but they did not record lair number etc in those days.
Also is cemetary still closed or can i go and have a look.

Thanks Marie 
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: Fergie38 on Monday 09 February 09 22:03 GMT (UK)
I think it is still closed but the keys can be had from Stirling Cemeteries Department.

Or you could quite easily climb in.
I wonder if you would be arrested for doing that.  And what would you be charged with.   ???
Entering a graveyard before your time perhaps.   :D
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: marie64 on Monday 09 February 09 22:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks Fergie is it a big graveyard?how long do you think it will take me and my wee bro to look around it?
Thanks Marie
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: Fergie38 on Tuesday 10 February 09 01:08 GMT (UK)
Try here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,353327.0.html

I live quite close by so if I can help, then I will.
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: marie64 on Tuesday 10 February 09 10:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks Fergie thats really kind of you
Marie
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 10 February 09 18:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Marie,

St. Ninian's isn't that big at all.

The people you mention won't be listed in any of the MI publications unless they were later burials in an existing lair which had a stone.

There are 5 Taylor stones listed in the pre-1855 Mitchell's East Stirlingshire Book and 3 out of those 5 have much later dates of death but none of the names match your people.

Personally, I would have another go at the Cemetery Records Office for a Lair/Plot number - I think you might have just been unfortunate in not getting that information. If you think about it - where would they know where to bury folk if they didn't have that info? Lots of the stones have reasonably recent dates on them but this doesn't mean these individuals are definately buried there, but I would imagine some of them must be.

One Taylor stone which shows more recent deaths (not necessarily burials) in St. Ninian's is this one:

Robert Taylor died 25.04.1910 age 60
Wife Helen Laird died 26.12.1938 age 89
Their children
Charles Laird Taylor died 20.12.1877 age 2
Jessie Taylor died 18.12.1890 age 5
Charles Angus Thomas Taylor died 13.01.1896 age 6
James Taylor died 28.03.1899 age 25
Robert Taylor died 05.06.1920 age 33

Anne


Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 10 February 09 19:01 GMT (UK)
Meant to say . . . . . .

It would only take a couple of hours to go round - at most.

Anne
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: marie64 on Tuesday 10 February 09 22:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks Anne for that.Did try again today but all they can tell me is they never opened the plot and that they are at st ninians churchyard.I have just recently started looking into my grans side of of the family and King Taylor goes back to 1705 when a king married a Taylor and since then King Taylor has been the middle name of the first born since then.My brother is Alan KingTaylor Mcwilliams. My searches have shown they were all in Bannockburn St Ninians area.My Grans dad is in Grand Sans Polment seen that at the weekend but all leads from there go to St Ninians.

Thanks for all your help
 one i had gave up on...... is my dads real dad my real grandad i shall open another post when i solve this one

Thanks so much everybody wish i had found this site sooner
Marie
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: andycand on Wednesday 11 February 09 01:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

The St Ninians burial records are (were) at the Stirling Archives. I checked them about 4 years ago for my gggrandfather who died in 1855 and from memory, whilst there wasn't an actual grave record there was a description of approximately where it was.

Andy
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: marie64 on Wednesday 11 February 09 12:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks Andy
Marie
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: Fergie38 on Wednesday 11 February 09 18:28 GMT (UK)
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/38fergie/Roots%20Chat/0458-Taylor-Stone.jpg)
I was there today and thought I would post this photo here.
it prpbably won't be of interest to you but here it is anyway.

Cheers.
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 11 February 09 18:39 GMT (UK)
How many folk watched you 'sprachling' o'er the dyke then??  ;D

Anne
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: Fergie38 on Wednesday 11 February 09 19:19 GMT (UK)
Suggest you read the other 'St Ninians' thread.   ;D
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: marie64 on Wednesday 11 February 09 20:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Fergie but thats not ma Taylor's. ;) mine are all David's or James's. did you need to climb in?
Can't believe how helpful you all are on here
Many Many Thanks
Marie
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: Fergie38 on Wednesday 11 February 09 21:14 GMT (UK)
did you need to climb in?
Marie
A few steps back then skipped forwards , sprang nimbley onto the wall and lightly hopped down the other side,
as described on the other St Ninians thread.   ;D

Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: marie64 on Wednesday 11 February 09 22:28 GMT (UK)
Im so stuck now heres what ive got ???
David King Taylor died 15th jan 1888
married to Margaret Thompson died 7th July 1888

Davids dad was James King Taylor
married to Christina ...........looks ike Osborne???????
cant find date of death for those two

James dad was Peter Taylor
married to Margaret King they married at St ninians on July 2nd 1786

so thats where the King part comes in.

They must all be in St Ninians churchyard or am i going down the wrong road?   
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: lindyb1954 on Monday 20 May 13 22:44 BST (UK)
Hi I wonder if someone can help me please I am looking for the graves of Alexander Rae, SMITH of St Nininans who died 19 Sept 1819 he was married to Agnes Kinross on 3 Dec 1786 and they had one daughter Janet Rae.  I think Agnes may have died in 1789.

I am trying to calculate their ages, as I cannot find any entries on scotlands people.

Many thanks

Linda
Title: Re: St Ninians Churchyard
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 21 May 13 07:33 BST (UK)
Hi Linda,

Looks like Alexander Rae & Agnes Kinross have an existing stone in St. Ninian's Old Churchyard.

Have a look here: www.memento-mori.co.uk/72.pdf

The dates of death on the above index lists 1817 for both of them, so it may be the type of stone which only bears the year rather than individual dates of death. (1817 might be a year of death or it may be the year in which the plot/lair was purchased.)

There are also another couple of Raes listed.

Anne