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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: mandyfahey on Saturday 07 February 09 07:42 GMT (UK)
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Hi Sonoftherock
This is a long shot but do you have a Jane Rainey (1854 - 1887) who married James Alexander in 1874 in Ballymoney?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi mad jockette,
Sorry nothing on it will keep it in mind.
Regards.
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Hi Mad Jockette,
I have had a look for your Jane Rainey/James Alexander with no success. The nearest I could find was James Alexander to Jane LEANEY on 20 Aug 1872 in Ballymoney Church of Ireland.
Regards
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Hi Sonoftherock and Kingkerswell
Thank you for your responses.
It is definately Rainey. the search goes on. I have a bit of info for the Alexanders, but nothing for Jane Rainey.
Many thanks
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Can't see a marriage for James Alexander to a Jane Rainey either but wouldn't rule out the Alexander-Leaney one yet.
I did find 3 children listed in IGI:
1. Henry born 17 Mar.1875 Co.Antrim
2. William John born 20 Oct.1876 'Antrim, Ballymoney, Cork, Ireland' (Cork des not belong in the record but LDS have a large batch with Cork in it)
3. Sarah Jane born 6 Feb.1879 Drumaheglis (a townland west of Ballymoney along the River Bann).
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Have also found these children and the mother is listed as Jane Rainey. Have used the new LDS pilot site for the whole of the UK and cannot match a Rainey marriage to a Alexander marriage.
Regards
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I tried both LDS Pilot site and Emerald Ancestors index and couldn't find a match.
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Hi Aghadowey
I won't discount the Alexander / Leaney marriage, they could well be related somewhere in the tree.
The info I have for James Alexander and Jane Rainey is she was born around 1854, married James Alexander 1874 and died around 1887(aged 33years) having had 8 children. James Alexander then married Jane Mulholland in 1888 they appear then to have moved to Scotland and had two children.
I can't find any info as to the parents of Jane Rainey. I had found through some death certificate that Jane Mulhollands parents were Willian Hugh (or Hugh William ) Mulholland and Rachel??
The children you mention for Alexander /Leaney match the info I have for William John and Sarah Jane. Could I be so bold as to mention that maybe there was a typographical error. Future generations have the name Rainey ( Rennieall variations along the lines) as middle names.
This is just another conundrum to keep me busy.
Thank you again for your information.
Mandy
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First of all, I have split this from Rainey deaths thread and renamed it since so much has been added to it.
Next, the IGI births I found are for children of James Alexander and Jane Rainey not Leaney.
Can't see a marriage for James Alexander-Jane Rainey but when I said not to rule out the one in 1872 to a Jane Leney I meant that it could be the right couple with her surname being misread in the marriage record (some are difficult to read).
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I need to reopen this thread again as I have some info that I need help with.
I found a birth for Jane RAINEY 1st June 1849 in Cashelton, Antrim, her parents were
Henry RAINEY & Charlotte CASEY (b 1819 in Kilavary, Antrim)- they married 24 July 1840 at Grange, Antrim. (Jane RAINEY died 27Sept 1887 in Finvoy, Antrim)
Other children were found with Henry and Charlotte as parents, all found on I.G.I. There may be more.
Henry b.8 Nov 1846, Grange, Antrim
Jane b.1 Jun 1849, Cashelton, Antrim
Rosey 8 Aug 1850, Cashelton, Antrim
James b. 4 May 1853, Grange, Antrim
John b. 12 Nov 1858, Grange, Antrim
I know that Janes father was Henry RAINEY.
Could someone help to try and confirm, so to speak that I have the correct Henry RAINEY.
Also, where is Kilavery. I have looked on the map and 'googled' it and can't find it.
Many thanks in advance.
Mad Jock
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Hi,
I have checked on the father of Jane "Leaney" and he was Henry. The father of James Alexander was John.
Regards
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Hi Kinkerswell
Thank you for your prompt response.
The 'Leaney' / Alexander marriage is the correct marriage as noted previously by yourself and Aghadowey. It was a mistranscription / interpretation of 'Rainey'
kind regards
M J
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Glad that the marriage turned out to be the correct one. What's Jane's address on the marriage certificate?
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We have not seen the cert, but a relative went on a trip to Ballymoney and through other info we found, it was deducted that this is the correct marriage. Also the info given on this site re- their children were confirmed as our ancestors.
We also found Jane and James Alexanders son Henry on IGI. Other family members and from certs from Scotlands people site have also confirmed this.
It would be good to find out more about Henry RAINEY & Charlotte CASEY.
This site has been extremely helpful in our search. As a result of the help and directions given we have built up quite a comprehensive family tree, with connections around the globe. But as we found there are still many more questions and puzzles to solve.
Grateful for your continuing help and advice
M J
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You really need to get a copy of the marriage certificate if you want to try and make a connection between Jane Rainey and other Raineys in the area- it's a common Antrim surname and you could end up tracing the wrong Henry Rainey. The marriage certificate will list residence of bride and groom at time of marriage as well as names of two witnesses who might turn out to be related.
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Hi I have just purchased the following info about Jane Leaney (RAINEY), it is definately the Jane & James.
Civil marriage 20/08/1872
Groom- James ALEXANDER
Townland- Bendooragh
Occ. Labourer
Age- 20 yrs
Church of Ireland
Father- John ALEXANDER.
Witness- John Hasty
Bride- JaneLEANEY
Townland- Ballinagarvey, Finvoy
Age- FA
Church of Ireland
Father- Henry Leaney
Occ- weaver
Wife witness- Isabella Wilkinson
Rev AG Gilmore
Ballymoney
Does this help?
Regards
MJ
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This version of the marriage record is slightly misleading (but should help). The ceremony was Church of Ireland but that does not mean they bride and groom were Church of Ireland. Also, the original record gives 2 witnesses but they don't 'belong' to either bride or groom.
The thing to do now is search for Raineys in and around Ballinagarvey. Also search for Alexanders in Bendooragh area (although John being a labourer might not have been living with his family).
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Hi again and thank you.
Isabella WILKINSON could be a cousin to James ALEXANDERas his mother was Mary Jane WILKINSON married to John ALEXANDER, it is with John ALEXANDER that the name change from McCALDRIDGE to ALEXANDER seemed to begin. Also John and Mary Jane had a daughter Isabella McCALDRIDGE. The family have been Church of Ireland / Presbyterian all through so far.
We have managed to trace the McCALDRIDGE family back as far as about 1804 with Thomas McCALDRIDGE and Rebecca GRAHAM. This info has been researched and found by various members of the family.
It is Jane Rainey's parentage and siblings that would be good to add.
I have quite an extensive tree on ancestry.com
I will take your advice and search farther in and around Ballynagarvey.
Thank you.
MJ
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Hi Mad Jock,
I have looked at the thread you have reopened regarding Jane Rainey daughter of Henry & Charlotte. The names of Henry & Charlottes family are all names that occur in my families tree with son John being the link. I wondered if you had any other information on any of these 'Raineys' that I may be able to link up with. Await your reply Borris
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Hi Boris
I haven't been on here for a while and not updated my info. My Henry Rainey as it turns out did not marry Charlotte, he had a marriage to an unknown from around 1840 to 1858, he then married Elizabeth Borland in 1849 and had a son Daniel born 1859.
The children of Henry with unknown mother are John Raineyb c1842 and married Maria Caldwell in 1869 Ballintoy, Jane Rainey b1847 in Ballynagarvy and d 1887 Ballymoney she married James Mccaldridge (Alexander) in 1872 Finvoy- this is my connection, Henryb 1855 d 1932 in Kilmoyle he married Eliza ? and James b 1858 Mullans Co Antrim.
The 1911 census for Ireland has most of the family living in Benvarden. The info has been gleaned from a Lady Dorothy who has done extensive research in Co Antrim and from a cousins visit to Ballymoney last year on a genealogy trip, also from the website www.emeraldancestors
Not sure if this helps you.
Kind regards
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Hi Mad Jock,
Thanks so much for the reply. Unfortunately it's Henry & Charolette's family from the Grange/Gillestown that I've an interest in. If anyone out there is able to share info on this family I would be grateful. Thanks again Mad Jock.
Regards Borris.
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Hello All
I am a DNA descendant of this family via the son Henry. There is another family via John who have done DNA testing as well. Let me know if you want to connect.
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Hi
Henry Rainey is I think my 4th great uncle. My connection is through his sister Ann who married McMaster.
I’ve done my DNA on Ancestry and on gedmatch
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Do you mean sister of Henry married to Charlotte Casey? I dont see a daughter with that name.
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I should clarify. I am connected to the Henry Rainey + Charlotte Casey family
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Perhaps this marriage in Ballymoney 1848
Ann Rainey father John a farmer to John McMasters
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1848/09342/5382580.pdf