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Title: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Saturday 07 February 09 17:04 GMT (UK)
I've looked on umpteen genealogy site's but i'm hoping someone on here will have more luck with this.
My uncle Cecil G F Hatton born in the third qtr of 1915 is the problem,noboby seem's to know anything about him.I've looked at  death's to see if he died as a child,i've looked at marriage's to try and trace him,nothing.He was born in the St.Geo H Sq district.
I'm pretty new to rootschat but you've helped crack a couple of brickwall's for me (thanks to those concerned!!)and i'm hoping for a hattrick i guess,
thanks in advance,
Alan.
 
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 07 February 09 18:04 GMT (UK)
What are you hoping to find about him?
It is too late for censuses, free BMD databases have faded out by the time he will marry or die....

Getting his birth cert will confirm parentage etc, but you seem already to know he is your uncle, so will know how he fits in to the family.

Suggetions could be -
Have you looked for a will for either of his parents? If he is mentioned it will confirm he was alive at time of writing, if he is an executor it will give more details of him at time of prooving
Is he a witness at any family weddings later on?
Are there any family members still alive who remember him at all, either as a child or older? or remember mention of him?
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Saturday 07 February 09 18:16 GMT (UK)
I'm the last real family member on my dads side unfortunately,i wish i'd started doing my family history about twenty years ago when my dad could have helped.
I knew of two other uncles who i'd met but have sadly both passed on along with their spouses,i have tried to get in touch with cousins,etc but i've never had any sort of reply.
One uncle was a tank driver and captured in WW2,the other was Navy as was my father.
I don't know if he immigrated or fought/died in the war,i mean it's unlikely but for all i know he could still be alive with a family somewhere,which would be great.
I've found marriage's for my other aunt's and uncle's but this one's just proving difficult..
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Sunday 09 July 23 14:30 BST (UK)
Verry late reply but apparently he was Cecil George French Hatton in full.

I’m hopefully going to find the time to head up Bromley way next year to see if I can turn anything up . Church burial records or something?

Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 09 July 23 15:10 BST (UK)
14 years and one Census on from your opening post, do you have him in 1921? Cannot post details but he's there with parents (identified from his parish baptism 1915) and 5 siblings.
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 July 23 16:40 BST (UK)
Baptism has his date of birth as 30 June 1915
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 09 July 23 20:34 BST (UK)
Is there any chance this is his death? :-\
HATTON, CYRIL GEORGE JOHN
Age at Death (in years): 32 
GRO Reference: 1947  D Quarter in EALING  Volume 05E  Page 73

There is a marriage
Sep 1946 Brentford 5e 622
Cecil G. Hatton
+
Gladys E. Jenkins

They are on the 1947 electoral register with her parents at 64 Eskdale Avenue, Ealing
David C. Jenkins
Elsie Jenkins
Gladys E. Hatton
Cecil G. J. Hatton
Joan Scott

Cecil not listed 1948.

OCR text
Uxbridge & W. Drayton Gazette, 5 December 1947
ELECTRICAL ENGINEER ELECTROCUTED By fire in a bathroom
WHEN water started to seep through the ceiling of the kitchenette of her home in Eskdale-drive Northolt, Mrs Gladys Elsie Hatton ran up the stairs to the locked bathroom where her husband was bathing. A neighbour who was called burst the door open and Mrs. Hatton found her husband lying half out of the bath holding the handle of an electric fire  in his left hand. He had been electrocuted because there was a fault in the fire which was also without an earthing wire.....
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 09 July 23 20:47 BST (UK)
...the Coroner Mr. H. G. Broadbridge recorded a verdict of accidental death on thirty-two-year-old Cyril George John Hatton, who was said to have learned his trade as an electrical engineer while in the Army...
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Sunday 09 July 23 22:29 BST (UK)
Hi all I don’t believe this is him . I saw it and did wonder thinking his name had been mistranscribed ( a J instead of an F ). I recall talking about him to my older cousin who told me he’d died young , apparently drowned.
But the story does say drowned so I’d think it comes under the heading of a possible….
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Sunday 09 July 23 22:34 BST (UK)
I think at this point I’m tempted to pay the money and get the marriage cert just to check out the witnesses
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 09 July 23 22:46 BST (UK)
Hi
The marriage will give his father's name. Which, from Rosie's baptism find, was Silas.

Cecil/Cyril and Gladys might have had a son?
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: Dundee on Monday 10 July 23 02:53 BST (UK)
One uncle was a tank driver and captured in WW2,the other was Navy as was my father.

Is it correct that there were four brothers, sons of Silas and Amelia?

1912  Silas Sidney John
1914  John Samuel James
1915  Cecil George French
1917  Herbert Kitchener

I can see the whole family, including the married daughters, in Penge in 1939, except for John and Cecil.

There are artillery attestations for Silas and John before the war in 1930, Herbert in 1932, and Cyril George French in 1931.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Monday 10 July 23 12:24 BST (UK)
Yes two sisters too . I believe I found the 1939 register on find my past.

They seem to be around the Bromley area.

I don’t have any real info on Cecil beyond what’s been found here by others , quite interesting to find new things out….

John would have been away in 1939

Silas ( their father ) passed away soon after this too


Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Monday 10 July 23 12:39 BST (UK)

One of the two sisters married twice and ended up in Totnes, I recall going up for the funeral.

John married twice too . With no children from the first marriage
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Sunday 30 July 23 12:28 BST (UK)
One uncle was a tank driver and captured in WW2,the other was Navy as was my father.



Is it correct that there were four brothers, sons of Silas and Amelia?

1912  Silas Sidney John
1914  John Samuel James
1915  Cecil George French
1917  Herbert Kitchener

I can see the whole family, including the married daughters, in Penge in 1939, except for John and Cecil.

There are artillery attestations for Silas and John before the war in 1930, Herbert in 1932, and Cyril George French in 1931.

Debra  :)

I’ve just reread this on the train and realised what was written ( sorry Debra ) where could I find the attestations please?
John especially he was my Dad
Thank you
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 30 July 23 13:41 BST (UK)
They are on Findmypast. 

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Sunday 30 July 23 14:41 BST (UK)
Aaah….thanks you I’ll have to have a root around….
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Friday 11 August 23 11:30 BST (UK)
Haha! Got the certificate- Cecil married 21st September , father Silas.
 
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Friday 11 August 23 11:33 BST (UK)
Hi all I don’t believe this is him . I saw it and did wonder thinking his name had been mistranscribed ( a J instead of an F ). I recall talking about him to my older cousin who told me he’d died young , apparently drowned.
But the story does say drowned so I’d think it comes under the heading of a possible….

I have his marriage cert and it is him…. Thank you all
Title: Re: Cecil Hatton..
Post by: alanjohn67 on Saturday 12 August 23 11:47 BST (UK)

And his mother in laws maiden name was Hogwood . Or Hogswood or Trogwood depending on the record….