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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: FionaMcDonald on Friday 06 February 09 18:48 GMT (UK)
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If anyone wants lookups from Newtownards Methodist Church please let me know.
Newtownards Methodist Marriage Books (50 marriages in each)
Book 1 - November 1863 to January 1885
Book 2 - April 1895 to April 1896
Book 3 - May 1896 to October 1909
Book 4 - October 1909 to July 1920
Book 5 - September 1920 to April 1937
Book 6 - September 1938 to July 1949
Book 7 - August 1949 to July 1956 - (51 marriages)
Book 8 - July 1956 to October 1963
Book 9 - November 1963 to February 1969
Comber Methodist Marriages
April 1894 to April 1937 (15 marriages)
Newtownards Methodist Baptisms (400 in each book)
Book 1 - December 1869 to May 1891
Book 2 - July 1891 to November 1912
Book 3 - November 1912 to September 1945 (416 in book)
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Hello Fiona,
I hope you will be able to help, my 3x great grandmother, Catherine McCormick was born circa 1810 in Comber and I wondered if there was a record of her marriage to David Rea in the Comber register and if you would look it up for me. Thank you it will be much appreciated. Regards
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Sorry, the only Comber Methodist marriage records I have copied are from 1894-1937 (during which time there were only 15 marriages) and the Newtownards Methodist marriage records only start in 1863. If Catherine was born around 1810 she was most likely getting married between 1830 and 1850. If it was after 1845 (when she was 35+) you should be able to get a marriage certificate from Newtownards Registry Office.
Fiona
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Hi. Could you check a marriage in book 6 for me? Francis Hubert Mulligan to Mary Evelyn Kirkpatrick on 24/04/1937. What, if any, details are given - witnesses etc.? Thanks.
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Hi there. The date given in the register is 20th April 1937, not 24th. Details are :
Groom - Francis Herbert Mulligan, age 21, Bachelor, Estate Agent, Glenbrook Knockbreda Road, Belfast, Father - Francis David Mulligan, Estate Agent
Bride - Mary Evelyn Kirkpatrick, Minor, Spinster - 5 Hamilton Road [I assume Bangor] Father - William James Ainslie Kirkpatrick, Engineer
Witness 1 - Thomas Lendrum [possibly Masters or Martin - but hard to read]
Witness 2 - [possibly Nesa or Meta] Pritchard
Officiating Minister - Samuel H Baxter
I hope that helps.
Fiona
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Hello there
I have just posted before I found your kind offer. 1901 census shows my granny Anna (otherwise Anne but known as Minnie) aged 20 living at 4 Church Terrace, Newtownards with her mother Mary White (widow) aged 54 years and her brother William J White aged 14. It says they were all born in County Down and were methodists.
I have seen my granny and granddads notice of marriage 1902 and it says her father was called David and that he was a Labourer (deceased). I think something is wrong somewhere with the information though. I have been searching for 17 years to find my granny as we knew very little about her. So the info on the census is very exciting but a bit puzzling. I don't know when or where David died or how and who Mary was. And what happened to William? My granny went to live in Scotland in 1907 but without William.
I would be very grateful for any help you can give ....so to recap, I think
Anna or Anne was born in County Down in 1881
William J born approc 1866 in County Down
Mary born approx 1847 in County Down
David deceased between 1886 and 1901
All Methodists - allegedly.
Kind regards and living hope
sebrofa
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Sorry - William born 1886 I think not 1866
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Fiona hasn't been online since Dec.2009 so I'm not sure if this lookup request will be answered.
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Hi Sebrofa,
I haven't had much time for family history this year as I have an 8 month old baby. I've just seen your request and will have a look at my records tomorrow but, as it's now 1.34am, I'm off to bed!
Fiona
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Hi Fiona,
Im looking for my grandparents marriage in Newtownards..
Thomas Morrow
Agnes Marth Coulter
Not sure of date but my father John Morrow was born in 1911 in Newtownards but cant find any record of him either. (info above is from my parents marriage cert)
I have a thread up with more info on it.
There is a agnes coulter married to a james in newtownards but their kids names dont tally but nothing gets ruled out. Perhaps james was james thomas but got thomas?
Would be very grateful if you could look thanx ever so much!
Hope baby is doing well x
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Re Morrow/Coulter Clan,
Could Agnes Martha possibly have been known as May? If so, the 1911 Census shows the following Presbyterian family living at Ballycopeland (near Millisle where you say John Henry went to school):
Thomas Morrow, labourer, age 40
May Morrow, wife, age 30 - married 14 years, 5 children all living
Mabel Morrow, age 12
James Morrow, age 9
Thomas Morrow, age 6
Ada Morrow, age 3
John Morrow, age 1
I still have to check the Methodist records but it would be useful if you could let me know if this is the right family.
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Re Morrow/Coulter Clan,
Could Agnes Martha possibly have been known as May? If so, the 1911 Census shows the following Presbyterian family living at Ballycopeland (near Millisle where you say John Henry went to school):
Thomas Morrow, labourer, age 40
May Morrow, wife, age 30 - married 14 years, 5 children all living
Mabel Morrow, age 12
James Morrow, age 9
Thomas Morrow, age 6
Ada Morrow, age 3
John Morrow, age 1
I still have to check the Methodist records but it would be useful if you could let me know if this is the right family.
Have been through this on morrowcoutlerclan's thread- www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,471682.msg3321192.html#msg3321192
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Thanks for that, Aghadowey!
MorrowCoulterClan,
I couldn't find anything on Morrows or Coulters in the Newtownards Methodist records but, as I now know they were Presbyterian, that's not surprising. Since everyone else seems to have pursued the other options I would have suggested (eg Emerald Ancestors, NIFHS, UHF, familysearch) I'm afraid I don't know where else you could look. Morrow's a fairly common name round here which doesn't help.
Sebrofa,
Sorry, can't find anything in N'Ards Methodist records that definitely ties in with the details you've given. The only White/Whyte records were the following:
Marriage 3rd January 1868
Samuel Smith, 27, Bachelor, Brickmaker, New Row, Donaghadee son of Samuel Smith, Mason
Isabella White, 27, Spinster, Back Street, Donaghadee, daughter of Alexander White, Sailor
Witnesses John Monk and Agnes White
Marriage 16th January 1885
Henry White, Full Age, Bachelor, Mill Worker, Movilla Street Newtownards, son of Alexander White (deceased) Labourer
Maggie Bennett, Full Age, Spinster, Mary Street Newtownards, daughter of Matthew Bennett (I think the occupation is Carman)
Witnesses John Bennett and Agnes (I think the surname is Edgin)
Baptism 6th September 1896
Born 2nd July 1896
Agnes White, daughter of David and AnnaBella White, Mill Street, Comber
I thought I'd try and see if I could find out any more about David, Mary etc and I see what you mean. I couldn't find David's death or a David/Mary marriage in the right location and timeframe either. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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Thanx aghadowey for showing link to Fiona wasnt sure if i was allowed to do that sorry!
The May Morrow listed in census is May Brazier to her own name not Coulter..It may help someone else though!
I am not sure if they are presbyterian but they are definaltely protestants ..as i cant find any links at all for them that list my father or his family in newtownards and donaghadee district parishes!
I have tried all the links you mentioned but to no avail.
Thanx anyway for your time and trouble greatly appreciated!
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Based on the previous searches from the other thread it looks like Agnes Coulter Morrow appears here in 1901 census- she and child are shown as Presbyterian so not sure why you would think otherwise:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Carrowdore/Carroodore/1255013/
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You lost me!
That is not my grandmother thats why i dont know what my father was.....where is her husband thomas in census?
And more importantly where is my father john born in 1911?
Am i missing something here ?
Im truly baffled.
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See my reply on the other thread since this seems to have little to do with Newtownards Methodist Church-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=471682.new#new
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Hello Fiona! I just stumbled over this thread when I was searching for my husband's grandmother, Mary Ann Adair who is shown in the 1901 census as living in Church Terrace. The family are presbyterian and Mary was 1 in 1901, so I was wondering if she might appear in the Methodist Church records? I would be really grateful for any help - it has taken me 4 years so far to trace Mary Ann, because my husband's mum never talked about her and all we knew was that she was from Northern Ireland.
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Welcome to Rootschat but if the family were Presbyterian they are unlikely to appear in Methodist records as it's an entirely separate denomination.
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Hi,
I have found a James Adair who married a Catherine Dunbar in Regent Street Methodist Church, Newtownards on 4 Oct 1898. It was usual in Ireland, in Protestant marriages, to get married in the brides church and then the family followed the husbands religion.
Regards
PS Family appear to be in House no. 21 Movilla St. Newtownards Urban in 1911.
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Thank you so much - that information really seems to fit. Can anyone help with how best to track this family further back - I really don't know very much about what is available in N Ireland. The 1911 census result certainly fits.
Kind regards
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hello
My family were in Church Terrace in 1901 and also lived in Movilla street in 1911 and in fact, Adair is connected to my family too. If you would like to speak privately then contact me on (*)
Sebrofa
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Thanks Sebrofa - I would like to know more but I am not allowed to use the PM facility yet as I am such a newbie. Actually, I see that I am now up to three postings, so will try to get in touch!
Enajeco
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New post split from this thread and now here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,554206.0.html
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Hello, I am looking for a William Kelly who married Agnes Polly around 1920. He was the son of David Maxwell Kelly and Mary Ann Boyd. Any information would be appreciated.
Hilary
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Marriage between William Kelly & Agnes Polly registered Newtownards Jul – Sept 1920, Volume 1, page 1294.
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Hi,
Marriage took place in Newtownards Civil Registrars Office. Fathers' names were David Kelly and William Polly.
Regards
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I have recently become involved with this family because a James Morrow(1846) married Mary Menagh(1844). Mary was my great grandfather's sister. James and Mary's eldest son James Morrow(1874) married Agnes Mary Coulter(1872), 7th Jan 1898. They had a son James Morrow(21st Nov 1898) who was killed in WW1. Now the story gets a bit muddied which is why records get a bit confused or missing. Apparently James Morrow(1874) went AWOL, abandoned his wife and son. He came back some time later but Agnes Mary Coulter Morrow(1872) had now taken up with James's brother Thomas Morrow(1876) and had a family. I cannot find a marriage, I assume that they didn't, and I'm having problems finding children, officially, but I'm still looking. I hope this helps !