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Hi I'm researching the Clark(e) branch of my family tree and have hit a brick wall, I'm hoping that someone out there can help me. I have an ancestor Charles Clark(e) who was born in Malmesbury around 1806 and was married to Mary White (also of Malmesbury) in 1828. I think Charles is related to Robert Clark(e) also born around 1806 (they may have been twin brothers) who married Elizabeth Neate in 1822. I'm looking for the parents of both Charles and Robert, can you help ?
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My name is Brett Michael Clark and I have been researching my family the past few years. My great-grandfather was William Cope Clark who immigrated to Canada in 1884. His father's name was William Clark as well, and my research confirms that he was born in Malmesbury around 1805. I can find no record online (ancestry and familysearch.org) regarding his birth. He married his wife Eliza (maiden name Cope), she was from Tetbury. I do not know the year of their marriage, but by 1840 they were living in London, where 5 of their 7 children were born. The two youngest of their children were born in Canada on their homestead.
I found your site during my search and thought I would send along a hello. I am not sure whether we would share common ancestors, but my research shows that the population of Malmesbury in 1805 was around 1,500 people, so there is a good chance that we do.
Feel free to contact me if you think we may share the same ancestors!
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Hi,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
I'm not related but this might help your research. This could be the marriage between William and Eliza,
October 17th 1839
Parish:St George, Hanover Square
William CLARK
Full Age
Bachelor
Butler
Residence: Eaton Place
Father: Ebenezer CLARK, Publican
Eliza COPE
Full Age
Spinster
Residence: Eaton Place
Father: William COPE, Horse Dealer
William CLARK Dec Q 1839 St George Hanover Square 1 11
Eliza COPE with same details
Regards,
Daisy
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I had a look at the transcribed baptisms for Malmesbury Abbey and I did not see a Charles, I may have missed him and will have another look. One possibility is that he was not baptized there.
There is a Robert Clark born 4-April-1802 and baptized 11-Jan-1807 along with his siblings; Elizabeth born 5-Nov-1797, Mary born 1-May-1800 and Eleanor born 7-Sep-1806. All to Thomas & Eleanor
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There is one other child baptized to Thomas & Eleanor in the timespan that I looked at and that is Elizabeth baptized 4-Sep-1808. I will check again in case I have missed anyone. When I have the chance I will broaden the timespan also.
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Whilst I was there I also copied these baptisms;
Clark, Richard son of Samuel & Rachel 18Mar1798
Clarke, Elizabeth, d, of William & Sarah 31Mar1800
Clarke, Alice d,of Samuel & Rachel 11Feb1801
Clarke, Joseph s,of Joseph & Sarah 6Mar1803
Clark, Wm, s,of Wm, & Sarah 7Apil1803
Clark, Sarah d,of John & Mary 4May1804
Clark, Richard Pinnell, s,of Jeremiah & Mary born 13Sep1805 bap;29Sep1805
[Pinnell is a family name that occurs in Malmesbury]
Further to this I have just found that Jeremiah Clark married Mary Pinnell 15 April 1805. Jeremiah was of Hawkesbury.
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Clark, Ann d,of Joseph & Sarah 12Jan1806
Clark, Elizabeth d,of Jacob & Jane 13July1806
Clark, John s,of William & Sarah 31Aug1806
Clark, Ann d,of Ebenezer & Elizabeth 12Apr1807
Clark, Louisa d,of Joseph & Sarah 6Mar1808
Clark, Mary Ann d,of Jacob & Jane 29Jun1808
Clark, Elizabeth d,of Thomas & Eleanor 4Sep1808
Clark, Jacob s,of Jacob & Jane born 3Apr1810 bap; 29Apr1810
Clark, Bamfield Neate s,of Mary 29Jul1810
Clark, Mary Neate, d,of Mary 29Jul1810
Clark, Elizabeth, d,of Ebenezer & Elizabeth 28Oct1810
Clark, Sarah d,of William & Sarah born 28Apr1808 bapt; 21 Apr1811
Clark, Richard, s,of William & Sarah born 21Nov1810 bapt; 21Apr1811
Clark, Mary Lane,d,of Jerimiah & Mary 25Dec1811
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Last page, I hope;
Clark, Ann d,of Jacob & Jane 1Mar1812
Clark, William s,of George & Paullina 27Dec1812
Clarke,Sarah, d,of Joseph & Sarah 20Jun1813
Clarke, Caroline Steel, d,of Jacob & Jane 12Mar1814 [glazier]
Clark, Thomas s,of George & Pauline 9Apr1815 [gardener]
Clarke, Ann d,of William & Rachel of Burton hill, lab, 7May1815
Clarke, Mary, d,of Ebenezer & Elizabeth of Westport, publican. 18Jun1815
Clarke, Sarah Hunter, d,of Jacob & Jane 3Mar1816 [ glazier]
Clarke, Allen, s,of Benjamin & Charity 19May1816 [plasterer]
Clarke, Emma, d,of Jeremiah & Mary 23Oct1816 [carpenter]
Clarke, William Lane, s,of Jeremiah & Mary 23Oct1816 [carpenter]
Clarke, John Webb, s,of Jacob & Jane 1Feb1818 [glazier]
Clarke, Mary d,of George & Pauline 3Feb1818 [gardener]
Clark, Elizabeth, d,of Benjamin & Charity 29Mar1818 [plasterer]
Clarke, Mary,d,of William & Rachel of Burton hill,lab, 31May1818
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Just logged on and noticed the replies to the queries, thanks very much :)
I examined the list to see if any of your results would jive with my information. What I do know at this point according to the 1841, 1851, and 1861 censuses, he was born in 1805. I just received his death certificate last week, death was June of 1864 and listed his age at 59. This also puts the birth year at 1805. I was also thinking that if his birth was sometime during the latter half of 1805 the baptism could have possibly occurred in 1806. I am trying to research what churches in the area exist as well. I am fairly certain that the Clark family would have been members of the church of England, due to the fact that when they came to Canada they were listed as Anglican.
It has been very difficult trying to research the UK part of my family from the other side of the Atlantic, most of what I have is from my ancestry account and familysearch. I am very grateful that you checked the records in Malmesbury.
Thank you again!
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Thank you for the information daisypetal, what you posted regarding the marriage looks promising, the time frame does fit. :)
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Ther is a Wm, [William] son of Wm [William] bap; 1803. A 2 year discrepancy on the census is not unusual. Further proof is needed but I would keep him in mind.
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Ther is a Wm, [William] son of Wm [William] bap; 1803. A 2 year discrepancy on the census is not unusual. Further proof is needed but I would keep him in mind.
Thank you for the info :)
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The Wiltshire online parish clerk project do not have a opc for Malmesbury yet but there are links to the marriage transcriptions; http://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/genealogy/index.php/parish-directory/item/178-malmesbury
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I had another quick look at the transcribed baptism records and apart from a Charles baptized about 1725 the next ones are Clarke, Charles Edward, son of Jeremiah & Mary [sawyer] bapt; 19-July-1820 & Clarke, Charles son of Robert & Eliza [sawyer] bapt; 25-Dec-1822.
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I had another quick look at the transcribed baptism records and apart from a Charles baptized about 1725 the next ones are Clarke, Charles Edward, son of Jeremiah & Mary [sawyer] bapt; 19-July-1820 & Clarke, Charles son of Robert & Eliza [sawyer] bapt; 25-Dec-1822.
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Thanks :)
The other lead I would like to follow up on is the possibility that William Clark (b. abt.1805) had a father named Ebenezer. Also, are there other churches in the Malmesbury area that I should consider researching as well?
Cheers :)
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Just a quick note; the sawyer in my last post is the trade of the father.
I have access to the Malmesbury Abbey records at my local library, not sure if they have other relevant records. There are several nearby villages, also some other churches such as the Moravian in Malmesbury but I don't live near enough to know much about them, although my own research as led me to Malmesbury. Some information here; http://history.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getcom2.php?id=151
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Thanks :)
The other lead I would like to follow up on is the possibility that William Clark (b. abt.1805) had a father named Ebenezer. Also, are there other churches in the Malmesbury area that I should consider researching as well?
Cheers :)
I think it would be best to start a new thread with your query in Wiltshire, you might get better results