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Title: Updated! Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Lynne EnZed on Tuesday 03 February 09 05:43 GMT (UK)
UPDATED 5 February 2009!!!!!!!

My apologies for this lookup request. Have just discovered while googling that I had already asked for these details at the end of 2006!  :-[ 

The reply came via personal message to say that there were no records on the MI's for our BELL's.

Apologies once again. Thank you.  ::)

Lynne x



Posted 3 February 2009

Hello

Clutching at straws here trying to find more information about my ancestors Joseph BELL and Jane BELL (nee BECK) who lived at Mosswood in the parish of Shotley and may have been buried at Snods Edge.

Joseph died between 1841 and 1851 and have only an approximate birth date circa 1775 from the 1841 Census.

Jane BELL (nee BECK) died between 1861 and 1871 and was born about 1784.

Their son George was buried at St John's, Shotley on 22 April 1828, aged 88 days.

Any information would be most helpful, thank you!

Kind regards and God bless you,
Lynne x

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Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 03 February 09 05:52 GMT (UK)
Have you tried here?

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;c=1309819;t=browsable;w=
Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Lynne EnZed on Tuesday 03 February 09 05:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Ruskie

Thanks for that. Yes, have looked but the BT's for Shotley go only as far as 1840. Did find the burial for George though as mentioned, which is why I'm hoping Joseph and Jane may have been buried there as well.

Thanks for your interest!

Kind regards and God bless you,
Lynne x

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Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 03 February 09 11:20 GMT (UK)
Of course, Lynne, I should have noticed that.

Have you had a look at Durhamrecordsonline?
www.durhamrecordsonline.com

This site is quite good for deaths:
www.familyhistoryonline.net

Both require you to register and there are fees involved.

Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 03 February 09 11:56 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately Shotley is not yet included in the family history online database.

Their son George was buried at St John's, Shotley on 22 April 1828, aged 88 days.

St John's Shotley was not built until the mid-1830's as a chapel of ease, so George would have been buried at St Andrews Shotley (Grey Mare Hill)....where incidentally my great-great-great grandparents are also buried!
What you see on the BT's mostly relates to St Andrews.

Jennifer

Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Lynne EnZed on Tuesday 03 February 09 12:08 GMT (UK)
Hello again Ruskie

Thank you for the links. Given the reply from Jennifer familyhistoryonline will not be of help at the moment but can check Durham Records Online and see if there is coverage.

Thanks and God bless you,
Lynne x

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Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 03 February 09 12:15 GMT (UK)
Lynne,

Durham Records Online does cover Shotley.....but only until 1812 unfortunately!

Re. the death of Jane Bell, had you noticed on freeBMD a death in the 1st quarter of 1870 of Jane Bell aged 86 (i.e. born c. 1784)? Hexham 10b 171. (Shotley was in Hexham Reg. District)

Jennifer

Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Lynne EnZed on Tuesday 03 February 09 12:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer

Thanks for that! Gosh! I nearly didn't include St John's but put it in as an afterthought!! Just as well! Who said ignorance was bliss?!

My Great Great Great Grandparents also had connections to Shotley in that they married there in 1840! Edward COULSON and Mary Ann BELL (daughter  of Joseph and Jane above). The copy of their marriage certificate from the GRO states only that they married in the "Church of Shotley" and had assumed it was St John's. Had not even heard of St Andrew's. How would I be able to tell?

The burial of George BELL is fairly straightforward as obviously the church of St John's was not built yet! Will have to go back to the BT's (burial is on p. 132/177) and see if there is any indication of the church.

However, another record for Edward COULSON and Mary Ann BELL's first son Thomas (who was christened the same day they married on 12 May 1840  ::) [are there any rolling eyes smiley's that are also whistling?!!!]) is in the BT's (forgot to note page number).

How do I know in which church his parents married and where he was christened, St John's or St Andrew's?

Thanks for your help.

Lynne x

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Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Lynne EnZed on Tuesday 03 February 09 12:37 GMT (UK)
Hi again Jennifer

Thanks for checking the Durham Records Online coverage for Shotley!

No, hadn't seen that death for Jane BELL, thank you! A definite possibility!

It's such a common name though so will have to do some research in the censuses to see if there are any other candidates (not able to afford certificates at the moment)!!  :P

Thanks again and God bless you,
Lynne x

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Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 03 February 09 12:44 GMT (UK)
Lynne,

St Johns was built  as a Chapel of Ease to St Andrews (which being high up on Grey Mare Hill was - and still is - fairly inaccessible, and was also getting into a poor state of repair)
It was built, I believe in 1835, but when exactly it started to be used for marriages and burials I really don't know. I shall try to do some digging and find out.

St Andrews is situated on a windswept hill, with superb views over all the surrounding countryside, particularly across the Tyne Valley to the north.
Here are a few links
http://www.westgallerychurches.com/Nmbland/Shotley/shotley.html
http://www.visitchurches.org.uk/content.php?nID=11&churchID=256

 
Title: Re: Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Lynne EnZed on Tuesday 03 February 09 13:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer

Thanks for the links.

The first link indicates the church collapsed in 1835 from mining subsidence so probably would not have been used after that until it was remodelled in 1892. Joseph BELL was a miner ... ::) (where's that whistling smiley?)

So, it would be more likely that the COULSON's were married and christened at St John's?

However, burials could have continued [outside] at St Andrew's! When were your Great Great Great Grandparents buried?

Lynne x

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Title: Re: Updated! Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: Lynne EnZed on Wednesday 04 February 09 11:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer and anyone else who might be interested!

Have been googling and found this article that suggests that St John's was being used from 1835:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snods_Edge

There was also mention here by John HODGSON in his History of Northumberland that St John's was not consecrated until 1837:

http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofnorthum06nort/historyofnorthum06nort_djvu.txt

Either way, it looks like my 3x Great Grandparents Edward COULSON and Mary Ann BELL would have been married at St John's in 1840 but that Mary Ann's brother George BELL was definitely buried at St Andrew's in 1828!  :P

If anyone has any comments to the contrary please let me know! Thank you.  :D

Kind regards and God bless you,
Lynne x

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Title: Re: Updated! Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: pb3 on Tuesday 18 August 15 15:34 BST (UK)
Lynne

           I recently photographed and transcribed the headstones at St. John's Church at the Snods; these may or may not prove useful - here's hoping.
                                       PatB.

In Loving Memory of
JOHN  COULSON,
who died November 11TH 1938,
aged 69 years.
[Incised headstone with lichen cover and staining.]

In Loving Memory of
MARY  JANE  COULSON
died 19TH June 1952 aged 74 years.
Also THOMAS  WILLIAM
her dear Husband
died 2ND Jan. 1961
aged 88 years.
[Small, white marble headstone with lead lettering, some of which is missing.]

In Loving Memory of
JOHN  COULSON
died December[?] 20TH 1897
aged 54 years.
Also ISABELLA his Wife
died February 2ND 1926[?]
aged 85[?] years.
Also MARY  HANNAH
their Daughter
died April 16TH 19..[?]
aged 33 years.
“Peace Perfect Peace”
[White marble, lead lettered headstone with the face in the form of a scroll. Thickly covered in foliose lichen and with heavy algal staining.]

IHS.
In Affectionate Remembrance of
JOSEPH  COULSON,
of Western View, Shotley Bridge,
who died November 28TH, 1894,
aged 73 years.
Blessed are the Dead which die in the Lord.
Also of ELIZABETH
Wife of the above,
who died on August 4TH 1907,
and was interred at ST John’s
Cinderford, Gloucestershire.
[White marble, lead lettered headstone with carved cruciform top, standing on substantial, moss-covered base. Face is dirty and discoloured and some of lettering is missing.]

In Loving Memory of
my dear Husband
ROBERT  BELL
born 12TH Jan. 1888
died 25TH Jan. 1963.
Also EMILY his beloved Wife
born 27TH Aug. 1893
died 27TH Dec. 1969.
[Black granite headstone and base with integral flower vase; incised, gold painted lettering.]

In Memory of
our dear Father and Mother
of Eddis Bridge Farm
GEORGE  SAMUEL  BELL
died 5TH September 1965
aged 89 years.
SARAH  PARKIN  BELL
died 26TH April 1979
aged 103 years.
[Sandstone headstone and base with some lichen growth and staining; incised, black painted lettering.]

In Loving Memory of
a dear Husband & Dad
JOHN  DRUMMOND
BELL
died 24TH October 1981
(aged 63).
Also
MARJORIE  BELL
beloved Wife & Mother
died 9TH November 2001
(aged 82).
At Peace.
[Sandstone headstone and plinth with integral flower vase, on sandstone base; incised, black painted lettering.]

Sacred
to
the Memory of
THOMAS  BELL, Son of ROBERT & MARGt BELL
who departed this life March 26th
1858 aged 26 years.
ANN  BELL died Dec. 6th 1836 aged 3 years.
JOHN  BELL died Sept 11th 1843 aged 9 years.
[Large, sandstone headstone, shallowly incised; small amount of lichen cover.]




Title: Re: Updated! Monumental Inscriptions for Shotley (Snods Edge) re BELL
Post by: ScottDixon22 on Wednesday 29 April 20 18:22 BST (UK)
To user pb3: that is wonderful you photographed and transcribed all the headstones at St. John's Church Shotley. Did you also do St. Andrews Shotley?  Do you have the transcriptions somewhere online? Such as findagrave.com?  Also, have you been in communication with Chris Nicholds? She is a caretaker for St. Andrews Shotley and is trying to get a better inventory of the stones there, including some that she found underground.  My Dixon ancestors were buried at St. Andrews, perhaps a few at St. John's. My 6th great grandfather Wm. Dixon (1720-1769) has a tombstone to the left of the front door of St. Andrews.


Lynne

           I recently photographed and transcribed the headstones at St. John's Church at the Snods; these may or may not prove useful - here's hoping.
                                       PatB.

In Loving Memory of
JOHN  COULSON,
who died November 11TH 1938,
aged 69 years.
[Incised headstone with lichen cover and staining.]

In Loving Memory of
MARY  JANE  COULSON
died 19TH June 1952 aged 74 years.
Also THOMAS  WILLIAM
her dear Husband
died 2ND Jan. 1961
aged 88 years.
[Small, white marble headstone with lead lettering, some of which is missing.]

In Loving Memory of
JOHN  COULSON
died December[?] 20TH 1897
aged 54 years.
Also ISABELLA his Wife
died February 2ND 1926[?]
aged 85[?] years.
Also MARY  HANNAH
their Daughter
died April 16TH 19..[?]
aged 33 years.
“Peace Perfect Peace”
[White marble, lead lettered headstone with the face in the form of a scroll. Thickly covered in foliose lichen and with heavy algal staining.]

IHS.
In Affectionate Remembrance of
JOSEPH  COULSON,
of Western View, Shotley Bridge,
who died November 28TH, 1894,
aged 73 years.
Blessed are the Dead which die in the Lord.
Also of ELIZABETH
Wife of the above,
who died on August 4TH 1907,
and was interred at ST John’s
Cinderford, Gloucestershire.
[White marble, lead lettered headstone with carved cruciform top, standing on substantial, moss-covered base. Face is dirty and discoloured and some of lettering is missing.]

In Loving Memory of
my dear Husband
ROBERT  BELL
born 12TH Jan. 1888
died 25TH Jan. 1963.
Also EMILY his beloved Wife
born 27TH Aug. 1893
died 27TH Dec. 1969.
[Black granite headstone and base with integral flower vase; incised, gold painted lettering.]

In Memory of
our dear Father and Mother
of Eddis Bridge Farm
GEORGE  SAMUEL  BELL
died 5TH September 1965
aged 89 years.
SARAH  PARKIN  BELL
died 26TH April 1979
aged 103 years.
[Sandstone headstone and base with some lichen growth and staining; incised, black painted lettering.]

In Loving Memory of
a dear Husband & Dad
JOHN  DRUMMOND
BELL
died 24TH October 1981
(aged 63).
Also
MARJORIE  BELL
beloved Wife & Mother
died 9TH November 2001
(aged 82).
At Peace.
[Sandstone headstone and plinth with integral flower vase, on sandstone base; incised, black painted lettering.]

Sacred
to
the Memory of
THOMAS  BELL, Son of ROBERT & MARGt BELL
who departed this life March 26th
1858 aged 26 years.
ANN  BELL died Dec. 6th 1836 aged 3 years.
JOHN  BELL died Sept 11th 1843 aged 9 years.
[Large, sandstone headstone, shallowly incised; small amount of lichen cover.]