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Title: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 02 February 09 07:54 GMT (UK)
Greetings,

If anyone is strolling through Rosehill cemetery, I wonder if they could locate a headstone for: David Robb who died June 25th 1859 aged 71. As his son was in business, he could be lucky enough to have a headstone.

It is my hope that David's wife, Elizabeth, is buried with him.

Thanking you in advance.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Monday 02 February 09 18:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Jamjar,

I am going to Montrose in the midterm week to find my gt grandmothrs grave.  I emaild the 'Angus council' and askd if they would b abl to locate it.  Within 2 hours thy had maild m back complt with a map.  They are very good and sem to hav a tam dedicated to this.  You can let m know if you still want a picture though.
Kind regards,
Lynda
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 03 February 09 07:35 GMT (UK)
Yes, Lynda, it would be great if you could locate the grave.

I have contacted Angus Council to see if they can provide lair details.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Tuesday 03 February 09 19:20 GMT (UK)
Hi There,

When you get the info just email it to me and I will see what I can do.  Apologies about the spelling on the last post but my 'e' key had jammed and I had not noticed....daughter using my computer........drat....

regards,
lYNDA
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 04 February 09 06:24 GMT (UK)
Thank you kindly, will do.

Had to chuckle about your 'e' key jamming.  ;D I re-read your post and can see the problem.  :o

Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 20 February 09 07:55 GMT (UK)
I've just sent another email, Lynda, in the hope I can get the information, today.  :'(

Jamjar.
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Friday 20 February 09 09:31 GMT (UK)
Thats ok am going to MOntrose tomorrow so you can let me know.   I will check my pc before I leave at 8.30am. 
Lynda
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 20 February 09 21:02 GMT (UK)
HI Lynda,

I have just received another message saying my request will be passed on, again. So, I won't have any information for you.  :'(

In both emails I stated I was in Australia and that you were doing this kind favour for me. Sad really.

Never mind I know that David won't go walkabout and with any luck he's in the lair next to your ancestors.  ;)

Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Friday 20 February 09 21:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Jam Jar,
I am leaving Edinburgh at 8.30 in the morning, so this will leave me plenty of time to go and have a look for you.  Wish I had thought and I would have emailed them myself.  I usually get a reply in 2housrs from them.  Will send picky if I get on and locate the grave.

Take care,
Lynda
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 20 February 09 21:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you kindly, Lynda.

Don't go to any trouble, though, as there's always another day.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Saturday 21 February 09 19:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Jamjar,

Just to say that I had a quick look today but to no avail.  I am going back in a few weeks so by that time you should have the details of the location.  I discovered my gt grannys grave today, and guess what........it was the same place as I located my 3 x gt grandmothers grave.....exactly the same one.....ah well at leasat I know now.  Her name is not on the headstone though, and my gt gt grandfathers brother is also in there.
Just let me know and I will get you a picky the next time I am there.


Take care,
Lynda
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 21 February 09 21:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much, Lynda. I'll surely let you know if ever they reply to my email.

It's a shame your Gt Gran's name wasn't on the headstone. Maybe you could get it added.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Saturday 21 February 09 21:38 GMT (UK)
I was thinking that Jamjar, but the stone seems to be quite porous and kinda delicate.  Must be the sea air I think.  There were a lot of them very worn/eroded and the facing had fallen off some and is lying at the side.

Regards,
Lynda
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 22 February 09 06:43 GMT (UK)
I saw a lot of that problem in Dumfries, also. May just be the constant rain that causes it.  ;)
Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 24 February 09 07:26 GMT (UK)
Well, Lynda,

No luck here.  :'(

Following is the reply: Unfortunately Burial Records for Rosehill Cemetery begin in 1894 so unfortunately the interment that you are looking for predates records.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Tuesday 24 February 09 08:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Jamjar,

your anccester died after mine.  She died in 1856.  My Gt GRanny is buried in there.  Can you think of any other ancester who died after that date (the recording point) as they may be in there.    All round the edge of the cemetry are what I call the monied headstones.  These all relatate to the people who were well to do and had money, business.  I am just wondering if they buried people in lines as they died as that would make the search easier.  (Rosehill is very regimented and dare i say crowded....all the headstones are close together, if you know whaat I mean.....
I will be bac up soon and all the details are in my car, so if it has a headstone, I will find it.
You take care,

Lynda
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 24 February 09 09:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Lynda,

No I don't have any clues as to the burial place of others.

They'll turn up one day, I'm sure.

I do thank you for your interest.

Jamjar.




Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 07 March 09 11:59 GMT (UK)
May just be the constant rain that causes it.  ;)

The rain isn't constant in Angus. Eastern Scotland is in fact a relatively dry part of the country. Average annual rainfall at RAF Leuchars is 28 inches. This compares with 23 inches at Greenwich, 34 inches in sunny Blackpool, 42 inches at St Mawgan in Cornwall, 32 inches in Rome (Italy) and 51 inches in Orlando (Florida, USA).

It's the type of stone. Sandstone is relatively soft compared to granite, and therefore it was easier for the stonemason to carve in, and probably cheaper too.

Both Dumfries and Angus are in the Devonian sandstone, which is sand laid down about 400 million years ago and partly held together as stone by calcite. Calcite is the commonest form of limestone, and it dissolves in water, especially if the water is acid.

QED

The moral of the tale is, if you want your descendants to be able to find your headstone, get it done in granite. It won't last for ever, because even granite will eventually erode, but it will last a lot longer.


Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: robnewt on Tuesday 17 March 09 04:49 GMT (UK)
Hi this is my first chat on roots so hope you receive.  Was searching Rosehill cemetery and noticed you were looking for a Robb headstone.  I have a copy Angus monumental inscriptions which includes Montrose Rosehill.  Checked it for David Robb but only Robb entries are for two wives.  If I can check any other names or cemeteries in Angus let me know.   I'm also in Australia.
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 17 March 09 07:31 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat.

Could you tell me the names of the two wives, please?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: martinneilb on Wednesday 16 October 19 14:13 BST (UK)
New, here looking for a map for Rosehill Cemetry Montrose - specifically Amelia Gordon (1844-1912) 
I was pointed to ANgus Rachives but they have nothing
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 16 October 19 14:21 BST (UK)
Angus Council has signed up with DeceasedOnline, so any enquiries to Angus Council about historical burials are referred to that web site. Have they referred you there, and if so have you still been unable to find Amelia Gordon?
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: martinneilb on Wednesday 16 October 19 14:36 BST (UK)
Got referred to Angus Archives by council but Archives have nothing and they checked DeceasedOnline.
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 16 October 19 15:11 BST (UK)
Ah. In that case I have no idea where to go next.
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: ev on Wednesday 16 October 19 17:28 BST (UK)
 ???
Deceased Online has an Amelia Gordon , date of death 6th Feb. 1912 , Angus.
Is that the lady in question ?

ev
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: martinneilb on Wednesday 16 October 19 19:22 BST (UK)
No Ameila Gordon 1844-1912, buried on the 8th Feb 1912, Rosehill, Cemetry, Montrose.
Just looking tor the actual location within the Cemetry

Thanks
Title: Re: Headstone search - Rosehill Cemetery, Montrose
Post by: bbeattie on Friday 01 December 23 17:52 GMT (UK)
Hi, I live in Canada but both sides of my family are from Scotland: Johnstone near Paisley, and the Montrose area on the other side. I know of 3rd gr grandparents buried in the Rosehill Cemetery in Montrose (3rd gr grandfather David Beattie died Jan 26, 1868 and was buried on Jan 29, 1868), but I have yet to find out who to contact re: a map for the burial sites for Rosehill. I got the burial register for David Beattie from Deceasedonline but, as others have stated, I wish there was a map to help locate the gravestones.  I think someone mentioned there was a fire which destroyed many records there.  There are, unfortunately, many burial records not found thru Deceasedonline.

Would be nice to have more Findagrave volunteers locate and/or photograph gravestones altho it's not always easy due to old stones covered in lichens or they're otherwise unreadable.