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Title: Gateshead address
Post by: JillStatton on Monday 02 February 09 01:35 GMT (UK)
Is there someone who could tell me whether the property at number 12 The Crescent in Gateshead still stands?

My ancestor, Rev John George PEARSON (Wesleyan Methodist) lived there in June 1902 and we are told there were 59 steps in the house - quite killing on the feet of his poor wife, Alice.

I would love to know what the house looked like.

Jill Statton, Adelaide, South Australia
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: Preshous on Monday 02 February 09 13:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill

I can't find it on modern maps. I know where it is/was. I will check it out next time I pass. However there are 2 photographs at this link http://isee.gateshead.gov.uk/detail.php?t=objects&type=ext&f=&s=&record=33&name_title=vue

Gary
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: stanmapstone on Monday 02 February 09 13:42 GMT (UK)
If it is The Crescent on Ellison Road then it is still there. Dunston Hill Methodist Church, NE11 9NS is nearby on Shrewsbury Street. The post code for 12 The Crescent is NE11 9SJ.

Stan
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: JillStatton on Tuesday 03 February 09 01:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks Gary and Stan for your contributions, but I think I am confused.

The Gateshead photos (great, by the way, and more than two) reveal The Crescent off Belle Vue Terrace, certainly in 1964.

IF The Crescent shown in pics is the correct address, which do you think would be number 12?

Stan, are you saying that you think The Crescent is somewhere else, or have the streets suffered a namechange?

However, the church shown in Belle Vue Tce is the Methodist church - not a Wesleyan chapel.

Kelly's Directory of Durham for 1890 indicates a number of Wesleyan Methodist chapels in High Street West (1860), Bensham Road, Durham Road, Mount Pleasant, Low Teams and Low Fell.

By 1914, Kelly indicates two Wes/Methodist circuits:
High West Street Circuit - High West St, Mt Pleasant, Durham Rd, Sunderland Rd and East Street, and also a Bensham Road Circuit.

I may have further info re the circuit Rev PEARSON worked at the time - will check and report back.  Meanwhile, clarification re where The Crescent was would be welcome.  Thanks, Jill


Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: JillStatton on Tuesday 03 February 09 05:03 GMT (UK)
Just received info re Rev John George PEARSON - he had charge of the High Street West circuit in Gateshead from 1901, then the Bensham Road circuit from 1904 before moving on to Sunderland in 1907.  This does not mean, however, that he moved residences whilst in Gateshead.  Jill.
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: Preshous on Tuesday 03 February 09 06:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill

Do the family show in the 1891/1901 census? residing at the Crescent. If they do we might be able to find the exact place via neighbouring streets.

Gary
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: JillStatton on Tuesday 03 February 09 08:56 GMT (UK)
No, Gary.  Family was still in South Shields in 1901 Census, and in Oxford in 1891.  They moved every 3 years with the church.  However, Rate books or similar would show occupants even if owned by someone else.  I have just enquired at Gateshead Council to see whether they can help.  Jill
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 03 February 09 10:26 GMT (UK)
An address search on the 1901 census only has one 12 The Crescent, in St. Edmund's, Gateshead Central Ward. The one I gave on Ellison Road  must be of a later date.
The Crescent goes from No. 1 to No. 61 which is in St. Helen's. Gateshead South Ward.

Stan
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: JillStatton on Tuesday 03 February 09 23:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks Stan.  I would imagine Rev Pearson's address would be close to his ministery at High Street West, which I think is near Ellison Road.  Know of any Local history books around for the area?  Jill
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 04 February 09 10:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill
There are a number of books about Gateshead available on Amazon.

Stan
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: Preshous on Wednesday 04 February 09 15:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill

This is a picture of 12 The Crescent on Ellison Road ( the blue door between bet fred and the auto parts store).

Gary
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: Preshous on Wednesday 04 February 09 21:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill

Just a quick question. You mention High Street West in one post and West High Street in another. I can find the chapel mentioned in one(West High Street)  but not the other.

Gary

Disregard the above. Sorry about that I got it wrong I was reading the wrong web page.
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: Preshous on Wednesday 04 February 09 22:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill

Sorry about my last post, watching TV and trying to get the football scores and surfing at the same time, a sure fire recipe for mistakes. Any way I think I have found The crescent you are looking for. Its getting late here and my bed is calling for me. I will post tomorrow and leave the ball in your court.

Gary
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: JillStatton on Thursday 05 February 09 00:38 GMT (UK)
Re the confusion over the location of the Wesleyan chapel.

KELLY's Directory for 1890 states: High Street West
KELLY's Directory for 1914 states: High West Street.

I must admit that I had assumed they were one and the same, but perhaps not?

Rev PEARSON's circuit included: 1901, High Street West, Gateshead.

Did the street name change somewhat after 1904?   Jill
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: Preshous on Thursday 05 February 09 07:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill

Just to add to the confusion there is a High West Street and a High Street very close to each other. All the records I can find are for a church on High West Street.
A photograph of bensham road church can be seen at
http://isee.gateshead.gov.uk/detail.php?type=related&kv=582&t=objects
And High West Street at
http://isee.gateshead.gov.uk/detail.php?type=related&kv=586&t=objects
The Crescent was demolished in the 70s to make way for what is now a fly over to the tyne bridge.
I have attached a modern image with push pins to indicate where these places were.

Gary
Title: Re: Gateshead address - COMPLETED
Post by: JillStatton on Thursday 07 May 09 03:06 BST (UK)
Not sure anything more can be gained from leaving this query open.  Thanks for your help, Gary.  Cheers, Jill
Title: Re: Gateshead address
Post by: GhdMethodist on Tuesday 14 September 10 20:40 BST (UK)
If you would like any assistance with High West Street Wesleyan Methodist Chapel (to which you refer in this thread) please contact me. I am the Archivist for the Gateshead & Jarrow Methodist Circuit and this chapel, when it existed, was in part of the area covered by our Circuit collection.
Richard Jennings
Gateshead & Jarrow Circuit Archivist