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Title: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Sunday 01 February 09 21:59 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Can anyone help with this pic of my Grt Uncle Jack?

He served aboard HMS Ramillies during WW2 (and survived the war)

Although I know it's the navy, did they have different regiments like the army??

thanks
Carole
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 01 February 09 22:04 GMT (UK)
No, Carole, they just went (go!) to ships...

He was a Petty Officer...
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: terry h on Sunday 01 February 09 22:15 GMT (UK)
Hi scrimnet

Is the cap badge gold, Carole has asked for a colour, also band round cap, navy?

Thanks

Terry
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Sunday 01 February 09 22:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks Scrimnet, I'm a girl, what do I know??? It's just a nice uniform to me  ;)

Terry, look forward to seeing it in colour!!  :)

Karolee
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 01 February 09 22:53 GMT (UK)
Hi scrimnet

Is the cap badge gold, Carole has asked for a colour, also band round cap, navy?

Thanks

Terry

The badge is red, and is on an elasticated band that goes round the hat...All very dark navy in colour  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: terry h on Sunday 01 February 09 22:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much :) :)

Terry
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 01 February 09 23:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks Scrimnet, I'm a girl, what do I know??? It's just a nice uniform to me  ;)

Terry, look forward to seeing it in colour!!  :)

Karolee
Thank you very much :) :)

Terry

No probs !!!

And Carole, don't stereotype yourself! You'll be saying that you can't parallel park a car because you have no spacial awareness next! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Sunday 01 February 09 23:05 GMT (UK)
Actually I can't!!!

I have my first driving lesson on Tuesday :)

But I can build flat pack furniture and fit a plug ;D
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: terry h on Sunday 01 February 09 23:06 GMT (UK)
I'm another clueless 'girl' :o  I take it it is just the insignia that is red, the rest of the badge navy (or all red) ::) ::) :o


Terry
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Sunday 01 February 09 23:12 GMT (UK)
Have tried to find a pic on google but they're all b&w  ;D ??? :P ::) ;D
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Les Horn on Sunday 01 February 09 23:20 GMT (UK)
The clue is that he was wearing a white shirt ie in his No 1 (best) uniform.  If he was a Petty Officer his badge would be in gold wire.  As this is in Red thread he is what is described as "a (junior) rating not dressed as a seaman" - a seaman wore a cap without a peak, a sailor's collar and bell bottoms.  This applied to Artificers who were not yet Petty Officers ie Apprentices and Leading Artificers; and also to Sick Berth Attendants.
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Monday 02 February 09 00:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Les :)

I have papers here to send off and get more info on his time with the navy if they have it so I may get some dates for when he joined.

He was born in 1914 so it's possible that he went in at the start of the war, that would make him about 25 in the pic??

Great to find out about his uniform and what it meant.

Karolee
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: scrimnet on Monday 02 February 09 00:31 GMT (UK)
The clue is that he was wearing a white shirt ie in his No 1 (best) uniform.  If he was a Petty Officer his badge would be in gold wire.  As this is in Red thread he is what is described as "a (junior) rating not dressed as a seaman" - a seaman wore a cap without a peak, a sailor's collar and bell bottoms.  This applied to Artificers who were not yet Petty Officers ie Apprentices and Leading Artificers; and also to Sick Berth Attendants.

And there was me thinking it was a WW2 "economy " pattern... ::) !!

Heigh ho....Nearly there, but Matelots aren't my forte really!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Monday 09 February 09 21:33 GMT (UK)
* COMPLETED*

Just wanted to show everyone the close up of the badge to confirm that it was the royal warwickshires ;D

thanks for all your help!!
k

sorry, going mad.....wrong man!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Monday 09 February 09 21:37 GMT (UK)
sorry all,

forget previous pic...that cap belongs to the WW1 man!!

this man, uncle jack was supposed to have the medal pics attached.

can anyone shed light on what he would have recieved them for?

thanks
K
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Monday 09 February 09 21:37 GMT (UK)
2 more medals...
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Rockford on Monday 09 February 09 21:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole,

If you look at:

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/F094AB02-070D-4D93-A15C-EDA1694A1591/0/Medals_Booklet.pdf

You'll see that you've got

1.  War Medal 1939 - 1945
2.  The Italy Star
3.  The Atlantic Star [Ribbon should be Blue, White, Green]
4.  The 1939 - 1945 Star

The Stars were 'campaign medals' and to qualify, he would have spent a minimum number of days in each theatre of the war represented.  The Italy and Atlantic mean that he was in those areas and the 1939 - 1945 star [I think] means that he had overseas service.

To see what each one was for, go to:

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceFor/Veterans/Medals/19391945Star.htm

Best wishes

Rockford
Title: Re: Navy photo query
Post by: Karolee on Wednesday 11 February 09 20:52 GMT (UK)
thanks Rockford,

I'll have a look at the websites and read up on them :)