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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: Trees on Sunday 01 February 09 21:45 GMT (UK)
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Hi does anyone have any information about "THE Flying Horse Inn" High Street Brackley please?
I have found Sarah WAGSTAFF living there in 1861 and described as Victualler's Wife. Her husband George was with his parents in Aynho described as a Baker.
This is the only evidence i have of George ever being a publican
Trees
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Hi Trees :)
does this link help?
I g**gled and this came up .... maybe they can help further.
http://www.northants-familytree.net/northampton%20town%20late%20victorian%20map%20pubs.htm
deb
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Ooh thats a nice map I've bookmarked it I have at least one pub in Northampton town I wonder if the site would know the Brackley Flying Horse I'll give them an e mail Thanks Deb
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Hi Trees/Deb
I rang the Tourist Information Centre at Brackley to see if they knew where the
premises would have been as they are long gone. They did not.
The High Street runs for quite along way through the Town and it could
have been any of Inns, Beer houses.
I checked the 1874 Directory and no mention of the building although there
was a place called the Horse and Jockey, no street name though.
Hopefully someone may live in the area and be able to assist more.
Sandy
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Thanks Sandy I didn't think of the tourist Office I'll remember that they can be a useful source of information. So its not still around that would explain why I'm not getting anything turn up on the net I think I'll ring the RO in Northampton. I can't think why I have only the one reference and then George was only 25.
Trees
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Hi Trees
I was given a contact name and phone number by the Tourist Information.
I will P.M. them to you in case you would prefer to talk to them yourself.
Sandy
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Hi Trees :)
I Live very close to Brackley and would be very happy to research this query for you.
I do know there is no longer a pub of that name in Brackley so I will start making enquiries.
Fue
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Hi Fue thanks for the offer they are a bit of a mystery.
Any thing you can find would be great the Wagstaffs were very Young newly weds and couldn't have been at the pub long They married in 1856 and had a daughter in 1859 in Aynho
Then they seem to have a son in 1868 in Cirencester and George has changed from a baker to a grocers porter all very strange I just wonder what their connection with the pub was
This is the only connection I can find on line;
1861 census
RG 9/ 921 fo 42 p14 ed: Brackley, Brackley 3
p[t]: Saint Peter, c/mb: -, mw: -, pb: -, t: Brackley, h/t: -, EccD: -
sch:85 High Street, “Flying Horse” Inn
Sarah WAGSTAFF Wife Mar 25 Victuallers Wife Oxon Yarnton
Elizabeth Daur 2 North Aynhoe
Mary SMITH Serv Un 16 General Serv North Aynhoe
RG 9/ 921 fo 9 p11 ed: Brackley, Brackley 1
p[t]: -, c/mb: -, mw: -, pb: -, t: -, h/t: -, EccD: -
sch:59 Aynho
Thomas WAGSTAFF Head Mar 65 Gardener Northamptonshire Aynho
Ann Wife Mar 59 Oxfordshire Chesterton
George Son Mar 24 Baker Northamptonshire Aynho
trees
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Hi Trees
I guess that means that the lady from the Brackley History Group
wasn't able to help you then.
Hope Fue has better luck for you.
Sandy
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Well not as yet I wrote ages ago but I'llsend a reminder later today Thanks for reminding me Sandy
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Hi Trees
I went to Brackley Library and unfortunately was unable to find any info however, I will go again to do some further reading to make sure. They have a nice collection of Brackley High Street photos but again no luck.
Having read Debs's post, I have worked out possibly where the pub would have been.
Here is a google picture but I will go tomorrow to Brackley and take a more direct photo for you.
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5716837.jpg
Knowing of course that building numbers might have been changed, 25 Market Place is now an Age Concern Shop (see Northampton & County and PJ Cars Taxi in the picture).
In the absence of any info, I hope this of some use to you. I hope to be going to the Northampton Records office in the near future and I will check the records there also.
Fue
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Thank Fue what a nice Georgian town it looks we must make a point of stopping a while next time Sapling goes to Silverstone I think the 65 was the schedule number not the street number I have another look and see if there are any clues in the nearby census entries
Trees
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No, I do believe that the link that Deb gave on the earlier post gives the actual building number and street, but I could be wrong.
Yes Brackley is just off the roundabout of the A43 and is a lovely high street, shame that so many shops are closing down on it :(
Fue
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Sorry Fue I thought the map Deb sent was Northamptons not Brackley I am having a senior moment and missing something here please point me in the right direction
H
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HI Trees
Nice to see Fue has gone out of her way to assist you.
The link to the Public Houses from Deb is for Northampton Town only.
Sandy
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You are so right Sandy Roots chat is full of the most helpful and generous people it is such a pleasure to be part of it.
trees
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Hi again
Many thanks for the kind words, it is nice to have something in my backyard that I can hopefully help with.
However Seahall your are right, the details appear to be for Northampton Town only (funny I could have sworn it was for Northamptonshire, now who's going mad) and what a coincidence that there was a Flying Horse Inn in the market square. Brackley's high street also encompasses a 'market square' :-\
So Trees, I am still on it :)
Fue
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Hi Trees
I have made contact with secretary of the Brackley & District History Society and although she was unable to give any information, she had details of a picture showing the pub and sign. It is not the best as it is a side view but here is a link should you wish to purchase a copy (as it is in the hands of an art gallery).
http://www.rightanglegallery.co.uk/Brackley+photographs+and+prints/153628_Flying%20Horse%20pub%20Brackley%20c.1870.html
I will continue to try to find its location and will let you know if I find any info.
Fue
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Many thanks Fue isn't it amazing how wide the road was when you consider the type of transport around then did they hold a market down the middle do you think?
Manythanks for the link I doubt they ever thought people in 2009 would be a bit interested in their pub how wrong they were
Cheers Trees
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Hi Trees,
Yes the road is quite wide in the picture and further on it is even wider because it held large sheep/wool markets (scroll through the pictures on the link and you will be able to see one of the sheep markets :) )
( I'm off now to see if I can place your pub on the high street ;) )
Fue
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Sorry to join this conversation late but I believe I currently live in the building that was once the Flying Horse pub.
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I posted your query on the FB Brackley Memories site, very helpful. If you look at Right Angles website (Art shop in Brackley) you will see a photo of the Flying Horse pub in 1870. It is on the right hand side of the picture with a sign over. It was in old part of Brackley on the main road opposite what is now the Chip Shop. HTH
http://www.rightanglegallery.co.uk/brackley-photographs-and-prints/153628_flying-horse-pub-brackley-c.1870.html
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Many thanks but if you look at reply 17 you will see Fue had already found that one for me
:)
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Sorry I missed it !!