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Title: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: 2ron2 on Sunday 01 February 09 15:57 GMT (UK)
An on-going post has requested info for the title Orphan Willie Woods,,,please help. The post was looking into info regarding his childhood. My  grandmother was Roberta Kelly, sister of Alberta Kelly who was Wilfred Thistlewaite's first wife) Willie was adopted and was originally Willie Woods. If the originator needs or wants info on the Kelly line I have info to share.
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: geniecolgan on Sunday 01 February 09 17:59 GMT (UK)
Hi 2ron2,

and Welcome to RootsChat.

The RootsChat member, willys son, who's family was found  on the thread,

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,283110.0.html

seems to be out of town this weekend but I have left him a phone message re; your kind offer.

Alberta Thistlethwaite nee Kelly was the mother of Albert, the half brother of willys son.

Regards,

Genie  :)
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: 2ron2 on Monday 02 February 09 16:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your reply. I show Wilfred E Thistlewaite ad Alberta Lenora Kelly as having three children: Shirley Helen m Jack Janes (had a son Allan); William Albert m Jean Baskin (had 4 children, they divorced and he remarried); the unnamed male baby.
Alberta and her sister Sarah Ellen as I mentioned were Home Children. After placement at Hazelbrae in Peterborough, Sarah eventually married Wm Frank C kelly in Norwood in 1899. My grandmother Roberta was their eldest child, Alberta was their third daughter (of 6).
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: geniecolgan on Tuesday 03 February 09 04:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Ron,   
going back over the post on the Willie Woods thread, it is true that Alberta had three children but only one survived. The first died at birth, the second was Albert and the third died at birth just a week before Alberta herself died in 1928.

Young Albert was left with Henry A.and Amelia Thistlethwaite at their request and raised by them.
 
Wilfred E. Thistlethwaite (aka Willie Woods) and his second wife, Mabel Helen Bowman, had four children; girl b.1932, boy b.1939, boy b.1944 and girl b.1947. I can't post their names as they are still living.
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: 2ron2 on Tuesday 03 February 09 13:15 GMT (UK)
So, do you have any idea who the Shirley Helen is that married Jack Janes? A researcher in Norwood gave me the information and seemed confident that it was correct.
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: willys son on Friday 13 February 09 22:35 GMT (UK)
Hi 2Ron2
I have been away and just became aware of your postings.
I am willys son and my father did indeed marry Albertra kelly.
They did only have one surviving son, Albert.
I can give you more info when you reply.
I find it very interesting that you corresponded with someone from Norwood about this.
I have a little info on the Kellys and I am sure my brother Albert would be very interested in any info you might have.
Hoping to hear back.
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: 2ron2 on Saturday 14 February 09 13:51 GMT (UK)
Wiiilys son

thank your for contacting me. Yes I am related to the kellys of Norwood. My grandmother Roberta (Ruby) Kelly was Alberta's oldest sister. Ruvy married my grandfather George Cross in peterborough in 1919. It was my understanding that they (Ruby and Alberta)  had both lived in Rochester at one time. My grandmother died there following the birth of her last child in 1926. She was brought back to Norwood for burial as was Alberta. I have some early pictures of Alberta and would be willing to send them to you if interested. I have no image of Wilfred Thistlewaite.

Will enjoy exchanging info and let me know what and how much you would like to know about the kelly family
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: willys son on Saturday 14 February 09 16:42 GMT (UK)
Hi 2ron2
Thanks for getting back to me.
My father and Alberta did live in Rochester, Albert was born there as far as I know.
I will contact you again probably in the next couple of days.
Doing a  bit of running around at this time and should be able to get a pic of my dad to you.
Willys Son
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: 2ron2 on Thursday 19 February 09 15:03 GMT (UK)
This info refers to the original post for Willie Woods which has since been locked. There was a reference regarding a possible mother for Willie as being a Catherine Woods and that a likely candidate had been found in  the Bethel/Doxsee Cem in Prince Edward Cty. I happen to have a transcript which I had ordered years ago and the info on the individual is:

???Wood   Catherine M, d August 20 1872, age 2 yrs.

so obviously it is not the right one.The other Wood entries in the cemetery are:

Wood,  Permelia d April 16 1852 at 27 yrs
Wood, Albert S, d July 24 1868
Wood, Jane, w of Wm Wood, died February 28 1871 at 85 yrs 5 mo

It doesn't appear that this is in any way connected to the Charles Wood and wife that the forum was seeking

Secondly, there were mention of border crossings for Willie and second wife Helen. Willie and first wife Alberta Kelly lived at one time in Rochester NY as did my grandmother and Alberta's sister, Roberta (Ruby). Ruby was in Rochester from 1921-22 until her death in 1926. Alberta was there sometime around the same time. Maybe Willie and second wife Helen went to Rochester to reconnect with what he left there from his time with first wife Alberta?


2ron2
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: Willie’s Son’s Sis on Tuesday 15 February 22 14:34 GMT (UK)
I am totally new at this so please bear with me.  I am Willie’s Son’s Sis.  At least one of them.  I am hoping to be in contact with some of the people who had been corresponding with Willie’s Son.  Maybe we can help each other.  Hope to hear from someone.
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 15 February 22 15:48 GMT (UK)
Hello and welcome  :)

I remember the threads when we were looking  for Willie :) I did some research on the Welsh side, if I remember correctly.

I do hope someone will see this and be able to help you link up with others.

Best wishes

Gadget

Add -found the original thread:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=283110.0
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: Willie’s Son’s Sis on Tuesday 15 February 22 16:20 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  You did do research on the Welsh side and thank you for that.  Someone named 2ron2 was saying that his Grandmother, I believe, was a sister to Willie’s first wife, Alberta.  I don’t know much about that side of the family though.  I am still hoping somehow, to learn what happened to Willie’s birth father, Charles Woods, and why he never went back to the orphanage for his two sons.  That was something my father never got over. 
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 15 February 22 18:44 GMT (UK)
I've just sent 2ron2 a message referencing this thread, I hope he gets it as he's not been on for a couple of years.

Gadget
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlethwaite
Post by: Willie’s Son’s Sis on Tuesday 15 February 22 19:07 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  I hope he does get the message.  The reason there have not been any posts from Willie’s Son - Roger - is he passed away very suddenly in September 2017.  Just before then, I believe he was beginning to communicate with 2ron2.   

Jane 
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: 2ron2 on Wednesday 16 February 22 19:43 GMT (UK)
:Hi just saw post
:Having some upgrades to my computer but should be able to access files soon

How can I help?
Title: Re: Willie Woods aka Thistlewaite
Post by: Willie’s Son’s Sis on Wednesday 16 February 22 20:34 GMT (UK)
Hi.
Thank you for answering.  In reading previous posts between you and my brother, Roger, I saw that you had said you were related to Alberta Kelly.  My Father’s first wife.  I didn’t know she had a sister, Roberta?  She was your Grandmother?  I knew she had a sister Greta and another Frances.  You also mentioned Shirley Janes and asked how she fit in this.  Also, I would like to correct the spelling of Thistlewaite.  It is actually Thistlethwaite.