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Beginners => How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) => Topic started by: mshrmh on Friday 30 January 09 13:43 GMT (UK)
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I seem to be getting the Copyright Warning message more and more. In the last couple of days I've got it whenever I've tried to copy & post a link (I know I can get round it by CTR + V) and am also getting it when I click on a username to get to their profile. Why should this be the case - looking at a user's profile doesn't seem to me to have any potential for copyright infringement?
Surely a message that pops up so often when irrelevant is likely to be ignored when it is relevant - to the detriment of RootsChat?
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Not aware of settings being changed.
The copyright warning should only pop up on Look-up boards and only when someone uses the right-hand button of the button. Having checked out what happens, it does not seem to come up when trying to check a member's profile unless the right mouse button is clicked.
At the moment, the problem you are having doesn't seem to be repeated for everyone.
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Puzzled C-Ed
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Having checked out what happens, it does not seem to come up when trying to check a member's profile unless the right mouse button is clicked.
Thank you for your response, which I find a little strange. You seem to suggest that is the act of using the right-click that triggers a copyright warning, irrespective of whether that action relates to anything to do with copyright.
The two button mouse pre-dates RootsChat and multi-tabbed browsers are widespread, so I find in natural when I want to reply to a message to right click on a member's name to get their profile (for location) in another tab while keeping the message page open. It seems a shame that this gets treated by the system as a matter generating an irrelevant automatic warning. As with the copying of links I can work round it, but.....
Still on the whole it works and as they say, worse things happen at sea, etc!
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I've just tried right clicking your profile and your last posts to open in new window and not had a warning message about either.
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I just went to a look up board and tried it and it does bring the message up... I guess maybe the system isn't sophisticated enough to know why you are right clicking - just that you are.
Milly :)
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Madpants - thanks for that - I've just tried yours on here & had no problem - perhaps this isn't a "look-up" board? Either that or the gremlins are having a rest ;)
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Nothing much happens when I right click on a person's name to look at their profile ...
I left click if I require such information.
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I agree that it is definitely happening on lookup boards but not here. If you right click on any link on the lookup board you get the message. I find it annoying but have generally managed to get around it.
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i had been getting copyright warnings a lot lately and it was confusing as to why but i think i've figured it out.
the problem only happens when i try to post a link onto a look-up board after i've done a copy and paste from another window,the system must be thinking i'm posting whole pages or something when i'm only posting a link! i had thought it was rootschat stopping me, and me alone, but i'm glad to see its not :)
tony
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Thanks all for adding your comments & experiences.
As far as I can remember I've never tried to post anything that would break copyright, yet I'm all too familiar with the warning. My point is that this is a "cry wolf" action - as it comes up so often (just because I & others use a mouse button) we can all too easily become "blind" to it & ignore it all the time - even on the occasion when relevant. To go back to my original post: -
Surely a message that pops up so often when irrelevant is likely to be ignored when it is relevant - to the detriment of RootsChat?
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Yes. It was a long time before I found out that other methods of copy/paste worked, and it was only the right-click technique that was banned. I do think that this information should be attached to the warning, if it is really necessary to have it. (No other site I am aware of seems to feel the need.)
I often compose a post on Word or Notepad, as it's frustrating to lose it if something goes wrong before you can actually submit. All I was trying to do was post my own work, and I gave up several times before I eventually learned there was an alternative.
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It is increasingly frustrating, as I used tabbed browsing...for which I want to right click on a link to open it in a new tab, but am of course getting a copyright warning every time I do - and I'm always forgetting the need to CTRL and click to open in a tab.
Given that you can copy and paste anyway without right-clicking, it's frankly a little silly that we're being battered with a copyright warning for trying to use a series of functions of our browsers...anyone who is going to break copyright is going to do it anyway (most likely using keyboard shortcuts), and all it's doing is frustrating those who want to use features that for the most part have nothing to do with copyright.
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Thanks for the further responses - it's good to see I'm not the only one despite this:
At the moment, the problem you are having doesn't seem to be repeated for everyone.
Not being a programmer, I've no idea what would be involved in either removing the inappropriate warning or trying to focus it sensibly. Perhaps Copyright Editor would consider the matter, now that it's clear I'm not the only one?
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Not being a programmer either, I can only raise the question with those who own the site and who instigated the warning notice themselves - for their own protection.
The site is privately owned and run and the owners do not wish to run the risk of a legal challenge over copyright issues if a user fails to take notice of all the warnings and guidance not to post copyright material. If everyone were sensible, the Copyright team would not need to be here.
The warning notice appears because the software recognises that someone has used the right mouse button - usually a feature of cut and paste.
The software is not perceptive enough to be able to mind read and know that user A has made a mistake and hit the wrong button, that user J is opening a new tab, or that user X is copying and pasting.
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I appreciate the need of site owners to protect themselves against infringement of copyright law, but disabling of the right mouse button seems to be much increased in recent times on a lot of sites. I find it really annoying, and more often than not will immediately navigate away from sites that use it. Many of us have become accustomed to using the right button menu for quickly navigating, opening links in new windows, etc.
We all know there are usually other ways to achieve the same result, so why do they bother ???
Mike.
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Copyright Editor - thank you for your response.
Not being a programmer either, I can only raise the question with those who own the site and who instigated the warning notice themselves - for their own protection.
The site is privately owned and run and the owners do not wish to run the risk of a legal challenge over copyright issues if a user fails to take notice of all the warnings and guidance not to post copyright material.
I have no quibble with the need for the site-owners to be wary of any copyright infringement and have never suggested this.
The warning notice appears because the software recognises that someone has used the right mouse button - usually a feature of cut and paste.
The software is not perceptive enough to be able to mind read and know that user A has made a mistake and hit the wrong button, that user J is opening a new tab, or that user X is copying and pasting.
The software is also "not perceptive enough" to recognise that "copy and paste" can be achieved without recourse to a mouse button. If we are deemed to need such frequent reminders than perhaps we should get the message every time we post on any board (whether lookup type or not)- in case we're copying by some other method?
As I keep saying, to me the problem is that the message is creating a "cry wolf" pattern, in that by such frequent appearances it is routinely ignored and thus fails its purpose.
If everyone were sensible, the Copyright team would not need to be here.
Equally I have no quibble with there being a Copyright team.
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