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Title: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: Valley on Wednesday 28 January 09 07:05 GMT (UK)
Hi
I was wondering if anyone could help with Leopold Williams I have him married to Ivy ML Young apparently he was born in C1880 not sure where, he married Ivy in Godstone.
Interested in his family and where he came from one posible is Wandworth.
we dont know much about him as everybody in family have all passed away .
Looking forward to hearing if anybody can or knows anything about this man.

Thanks Val
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: erica lyn on Wednesday 28 January 09 19:02 GMT (UK)
Leopold Joseph Williams born Dec qtr 1880 Wandsworth 1d 627
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: erica lyn on Wednesday 28 January 09 19:20 GMT (UK)
Problem - Leopold Joseph Williams died Dec 1883 aged 3 Wandsworth :P
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 28 January 09 19:25 GMT (UK)
On Rootsweb free BMD'S it is only showing a birth and death of this person, no marriage and at the moment and no sign on 1881.
Any other info would be useful

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 28 January 09 19:34 GMT (UK)
marriage 1914.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl?start=1914&end=1914&sq=1&eq=1&type=Marriages&vol=2a&pgno=373

Ivy's birth 1893? http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=89761608&d=bmd_1230653002
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 28 January 09 19:56 GMT (UK)
I don't know if this helps but there is a family of Williams living in Battersea on 1881 census on familysearch.org it comes under Westminster, Battersea is not far from Wandsworth.

as follows

10 Doddington Gr Battersea RG11/0649 FOLIO 12 PAGE 20

Susannah Williams head marr aged 35 born Deal Kent
Robert J son single 15 New Kent Road
Jessica 13 Westminster
Alice 11 Westminster
Ada 6 Westminster
Louise 3 Westminster
LEOPOLD   6 months

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: erica lyn on Wednesday 28 January 09 20:05 GMT (UK)
We know the Leopold m1914 is not the Leopold b1880 Wandsworth.

1 Leopold on 1891 and 1901 census living Hackney b1888/89

8 further Leopolds on 1901 census including:
Living Greenwich b1872
          Paddington b1873
          Bootle b1884
          Bristol b1885
          Crowhurst b1886
          Cheltenham b1899
other 2 too young to marry in 1914.

Fathers name from marriage cert. would help narrow down/exclude these.
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 28 January 09 20:11 GMT (UK)
I have been trying to find Susannah and family on 1871 with no luck at all, although she has a host of children on 1881 they may not  all be her's although there is a marriage in Wandsworth William Williams to a Susannah Bingham 1867, just a thought.
I am sure a cert would help

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: Valley on Thursday 29 January 09 06:40 GMT (UK)
Hi
I have now come to the conclusion it could be Crowhurst as i believe this is surrey I know there is one in Sussex as well We know he married a young app she was always called  Lou I notice Ivy middle name is Lou!!
Also she came from Godstone.
We also knew Leopold was an Architect in later life and they had 3/4 boys and a girl.
Danel transcribed wrong on his birth cert Danel was my father in law.Although not seen his birth cert I was given this info,  Tim, Ted, and June could be another boy.
My subscription has expired on Ancestry is it possible someone could look at the one from Crowhurst 1901 please.
I am grateful for all the help on this thread

Regards Val
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 29 January 09 10:24 GMT (UK)

My subscription has expired on Ancestry is it possible someone could look at the one from Crowhurst 1901 please.


You don't need a sub to look at indexes.

The one in Crowhurst 1901 is from Shropshire and is Leopold James Williams; He is "attending school"

Pauline
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: Valley on Thursday 29 January 09 11:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks
Still unsure if this is where he came from will have to dig further but without the help of family who are now all dec'd its difficult.
Thanks for help

Regards Val
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 29 January 09 12:10 GMT (UK)
We know the Leopold m1914 is not the Leopold b1880 Wandsworth.

1 Leopold on 1891 and 1901 census living Hackney b1888/89

8 further Leopolds on 1901 census including:
(Snip)
other 2 too young to marry in 1914.

Fathers name from marriage cert. would help narrow down/exclude these.


When you have the marriage certificate then we should be able to help further.
Reference has been given previously.

You may also wish to take a chance on this being the correct registration for his birth.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/districts.pl?r=74114628&d=bmd_1230653002
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/atcham.html


Ancestry can often be accessed free of charge at libraries. Check with your local one.
Pauline
Title: Re: Help needed with Leopold Williams
Post by: Valley on Thursday 29 January 09 12:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks
I will order the Williams - Young marriage cert and see what we get from that.
I have also just been informed there is one person still alive that can recall him and that is his Daughter in Law now in 80's
I will maybe get some info from her.

Val